Well, the lortabs I take currently are 10/500 4X daily. I have been know to take 6, but that is due to overdoing it big time at work. I have seen something about cold water extraction, but have no idea where to start. I was afraid I would lose or waste what is needed. But my test levels are what I am attributing to my sex drive. I am serious Atomini, in my teens and early 20s, I could have sex 20 times a day. I wanted it that much even. At about 27, I started really noticing a drop. When I got married a couple years ago, it was non-existant. When I was on cycle, it was much better, but no where near where I wanted it. My wifes emotions is what made me insecure about it. She thought it was her, but it was 100% me. We dated for 8 years before marriage, and refrained from sex for a long time(her idea). But it is like it just went away, and I stopped thinking about it. I could still get aroused, but would collapse on itself after a few minutes. Once I started the Prop, it got alot better, but still not what it used to be. If you dont mind, I would like to see that cold water extraction(I just dont trust trying it without being certain on what I am doing) if you could message me about it. Thanks!