2nd cycle requersting advice.

[Metalject]

if youre going to run tren you don't need a large test base. reduce your test to 100-200mg/wk

save your prop for the last two wks.

reduce clomid to 75/50/50/50

also, any ai or hcg? caber or prami on hand would be wise too.

Dropping the test dose, that would depend on the goal of the cycle. Saying because you're using Tren you need a low test dose doesn't make sense to me if you're saying in the basis that it has to be done this way. During all my years of contest prep I cannot think of one time where my test dose was lower than my Tren dose through the brunt of the cycle with the exception being at the very end of the diet. As for off-season, test would always be higher.

Last thing, caber or prami....Tren can easily be used without these. I know a lot of guys here preach the prolactin/gyno speech but I disagree. Will it hurt? No. Is it a must? No.

[stpete]

Dropping the test dose, that would depend on the goal of the cycle. Saying because you're using Tren you need a low test dose doesn't make sense to me if you're saying in the basis that it has to be done this way. During all my years of contest prep I cannot think of one time where my test dose was lower than my Tren dose through the brunt of the cycle with the exception being at the very end of the diet. As for off-season, test would always be higher.

Last thing, caber or prami....Tren can easily be used without these. I know a lot of guys here preach the prolactin/gyno speech but I disagree. Will it hurt? No. Is it a must? No.

Agree w/everything right here!! And Metal, there's a lot of talk here of late about the way to run tren is w/lower test. Different strokes for different folks, but i feel the same you do. I won't go around preaching that that's the only way to run it, i can only say being an 8 year veteran of the compound, i get along a lot better w/a nice dose of test in there.

[Julz_W]

Any thing that'll affect the cardio - I heard Tren can lower your endurance.

Still curious about the heart risks - is it any greater risk than other AAS?

[MickeyKnox]

Dropping the test dose, that would depend on the goal of the cycle. Saying because you're using Tren you need a low test dose doesn't make sense to me if you're saying in the basis that it has to be done this way. During all my years of contest prep I cannot think of one time where my test dose was lower than my Tren dose through the brunt of the cycle with the exception being at the very end of the diet. As for off-season, test would always be higher.

Last thing, caber or prami....Tren can easily be used without these. I know a lot of guys here preach the prolactin/gyno speech but I disagree. Will it hurt? No. Is it a must? No.

what part of lowering the test to potentially decrease sides on a second cycle of tren are you having trouble with? time and time again users have reported that when the test dose was decreased to trt, or close to, sides decreased simultaneously. this has been well documented. but in all fairness, perhaps i should have elaborated. i simply thought that this was common knowledge.

im completely aware that prami and caber can are not necessary on every tren cycle, particularly if an ai is used to combat e2. if you control e2, you'll unusually have no need for prami/caber. again, this is well documented as well. but i would think advice to have it on hand would be prudent. and i believe Swifto has an excellent writeup on this subject. therefore, my advice is based on 2nd cycle, first time tren, recommended dose amounts, and what would be prudent to have on hand. your experience far outweighs his.

Agree w/everything right here!! And Metal, there's a lot of talk here of late about the way to run tren is w/lower test. Different strokes for different folks, but i feel the same you do. I won't go around preaching that that's the only way to run it, i can only say being an 8 year veteran of the compound, i get along a lot better w/a nice dose of test in there.

there is a reason for that Pete, it's because it works for most people. and most report the same thing. but as you say, different strokes for different folks. but juts to be clear, i never said it was the only way to run tren..never, not once brother. there's a big difference between 8 years and 1 cycle.

hows that halo treating you?