How far above maintenance calories on gear? (detailed post, help appreciated)

[Until_It_Sleeps]

I think it depends how easily you gain fat. I gain muscle easily but fat too, which is why I watch calories even when trying to add size on gear. My last bulk I was on 3500 cal per day (about 2x maintenance for me) which was way too much for a 5'1 female. I packed on about 15 lbs of fat with all my gains. But if you do not gain fat as easily then obviously you can eat more.

Doesn't some gear (like tren) maximize the efficiency of food? I hear that beef cattle on tren ace can grow with minimal calories, which is why farmers like it. Wouldn't that apply to humans using it as well?

[Atomini]

I think it depends how easily you gain fat. I gain muscle easily but fat too, which is why I watch calories even when trying to add size on gear. My last bulk I was on 3500 cal per day (about 2x maintenance for me) which was way too much for a 5'1 female. I packed on about 15 lbs of fat with all my gains. But if you do not gain fat as easily then obviously you can eat more.

Doesn't some gear (like tren) maximize the efficiency of food? I hear that beef cattle on tren ace can grow with minimal calories, which is why farmers like it. Wouldn't that apply to humans using it as well?

Correct. But this is what ALL anabolic steroids do. Some do this better/more than others (case example is Trenbolone). Trenbolone is not special in this regard, except for its ability to do this at a far greater degree than most AAS. This is what is known as nutrient partitioning. More of the food you eat and nutrents you intake while on a cycle of anabolic steroids will be shuttled towards muscle growth and repair rather than towards fat storage. But I said MORE, not ALL. You can't expect to use the strongest AAS out there and eat small countries for breakfast and not put on any fat mass at all.