is this a crazy amount of gear for one cycle?

[Lunk1]

I hear ya. If you drop this, change that, and add some others then you end up with a good cycle! Lol!
But really? 20 weeks of a 19Nor and to end with tren E and not run his test out past there amd no AI? He is all over the place! This cycle is terrible!

Explain why you think this is sooo important....

Not to mention that Deca is fairly mild and neither the deca or the tren are being run at big doses.

Is it what I would do? Nope...but it's further from suicidal than it looks at first glance

[effinmo]

Explain why you think this is sooo important....

Not to mention that Deca is fairly mild and neither the deca or the tren are being run at big doses.

Is it what I would do? Nope...but it's further from suicidal than it looks at first glance

19nor shuts you down hard and is one reason we always run test alongside it. I agree deca is fairly mild for a nandralone but to then switch to tren e instead of riding out the cycle with deca? Tren e is a long ester and will take a while to clear from your system and if you dont run your test out further than a nandralone you will almost certainly crash hard and lose gains! Nandralone binds to ar but it is not test and we need test in us until we can get our own pumping again. I thought everyone knew that! It might not be suicidal by the mgs he is using but the plan sucks!

[Lunk1]

19nor shuts you down hard and is one reason we always run test alongside it. I agree deca is fairly mild for a nandralone but to then switch to tren e instead of riding out the cycle with deca? Tren e is a long ester and will take a while to clear from your system and if you dont run your test out further than a nandralone you will almost certainly crash hard and lose gains! Nandralone binds to ar but it is not test and we need test in us until we can get our own pumping again. I thought everyone knew that! It might not be suicidal by the mgs he is using but the plan sucks!

Have you run alot of 19-nor's or Tren for that matter?

Isn't the Test E ester the same half life as the Tren E ester (since they are both enethate and all). Wouldnt they clear the system at the same time and since your natty test is already shut down I am missing your reasoning? Is this something you heard or read somewhere?

[effinmo]

Have you run alot of 19-nor's or Tren for that matter?

Isn't the Test E ester the same half life as the Tren E ester (since they are both enethate and all). Wouldnt they clear the system at the same time and since your natty test is already shut down I am missing your reasoning? Is this something you heard or read somewhere?

Got to manage everything when cycling, what about the prolactin? Run your test out at least 2 weeks after a 19nor clears! Simple. And yes i have run deca and tren both but in different cycles! I will say i have not run tren e, i run tren a!
Anyway this is my opinion from experience and research, if you think otherwise its all good!

[Lunk1]

Got to manage everything when cycling, what about the prolactin? Run your test out at least 2 weeks after a 19nor clears! Simple. And yes i have run deca and tren both but in different cycles! I will say i have not run tren e, i run tren a!
Anyway this is my opinion from experience and research, if you think otherwise its all good!

My point is that this is Broscience and one I used to buy into as well but it is not neccassary since both compounds shut down natty production and since both compounds are E ester they will clear at the same time.

As far as PROLACTIN goes...as long as an AI is used and estro is managed prloactin will not be an issue but with tren I believe in keeping Caber on hand for emergencys

[dec11]

Got to manage everything when cycling, what about the prolactin? Run your test out at least 2 weeks after a 19nor clears! Simple. And yes i have run deca and tren both but in different cycles! I will say i have not run tren e, i run tren a!
Anyway this is my opinion from experience and research, if you think otherwise its all good!

ive yet to experience it and have run tren countless times.

i find research doesnt cover everything, experience does.....