Quote Originally Posted by Sworder View Post
Yes, I think it is an interesting study because it stimulates the thought process you have. What comes first as a male ages? low testosterone -> high body fat elevating estrogen and then coming back on negative feedback to suppress testosterone further.

If a obese person were to use AAS I would suggest a non-aromatase steroid. Such as winny, I think he would have great results. Winny is famous for getting you that dry look which is nice but not noticable when you have a lot of body fat. All androgens will increase your fat burning(lipolysis) regardless if it is known as a "bulk" or "cutter". You can cut or bulk on anything it will be the diet that is the decider. Winny only not recommended because of the lack of testosterone. BUT, and this is personal speculation is that since he has enough estrogen in his body due to all his body fat his libido won't suffer from it. I don't believe in the testosterone concept, it's not that special. It's an androgen that is subject to aromatase. Lets say a persons next cycle would be Deca/Tren/Mast I don't think libido would be an issue! This is theory though and absolutely not recommended. It's quite insane to be honest... No not really if you really understand the mechanics of the AR. Certain steroids will act on the same exact receptors testosterone acts on for libido, there is no testosterone specific libido receptor. You are going to need some aromatase and that can be given from deca. Anyway it's just personal thoughts and theories pay it no mind
Ok cool. So in this type of situation, winny only could possibly be ran alone. I see you dont recommend it, but due to the already speculated high estrogen levels, the non-aromatizing winstrol cold possibly benefit by not converting into more estrogen? If this were the case, could you see him running a low dose of test, say 125mgs weekly and winstrol? I am not, and I know you are not recomending this, but this is for further learning for the OP and myself. I could see slight supression from the winstrol, but him being 31, I would say he is somewhat supressed now, especially being that he is over-weight and estrogen levels could be rather high. I think BW should be in his future and then go from there. A rock solid diet and proper exercise to lose any fat is definitely going to be the best and most sustainable means of keeping the weight off.