AIs and Lipid Values???

[Metalject]

Iam with you here. I have not once seen a post about this on this forum, that is, since I have become active. High cholesterol can be very dangerous, even in a short amount of time. Arteries can harden fairly quick, as can plaque build up. I always see things like gyno, water retention, soreness, etc, but those are all visual side effects. I think this cholesterol thing should be further researched, even if it is by me. But if MuscleInk can nail down more advice from the professionals, that is going to help out tremendously. I just learned about lipids in relation to AI today while reading, and I am definitely going to research a bit more to see the risk to reward while using them. I know they are common place, and I am no one to change the flow of things. But if they are bad for ME, then I will not use them. That goes for anything for that matter. The only reason I use an AI in the first place is because my already high BP stays high, even while on my prescribed meds. But this could be due to the elevated lipids due to the AI use. And when you say using SERMs insteadof AIs, you mean something like Nolvadex @ say 10mgs ED?

Yep, cardiovascular health should be the primary concern of most, but often it's not.

With a moderate cycle, a lot of guys can control gyno with a SERM like Novladex or Clomid...Nolva seems to be a little better at this though...10-20mg/ed. If that doesn't work, odds are no amount will and you'll have to use an AI or adjust your stack in some way. When it comes to water retention, I'm a firm believer this can be controlled through diet. Yes, estrogenic steroids can cause water retention, but so many times I'd be willing to bet the brunt of the water retention is due to overeating...especially carbohydrates. I think many would be surprised how well they can control water retention with their diet. Of course, you get into big boy cycles and once again this can change things, and it's always important to keep in mind the issue of individual response.

[warmouth]

Yep, cardiovascular health should be the primary concern of most, but often it's not.

With a moderate cycle, a lot of guys can control gyno with a SERM like Novladex or Clomid...Nolva seems to be a little better at this though...10-20mg/ed. If that doesn't work, odds are no amount will and you'll have to use an AI or adjust your stack in some way. When it comes to water retention, I'm a firm believer this can be controlled through diet. Yes, estrogenic steroids can cause water retention, but so many times I'd be willing to bet the brunt of the water retention is due to overeating...especially carbohydrates. I think many would be surprised how well they can control water retention with their diet. Of course, you get into big boy cycles and once again this can change things, and it's always important to keep in mind the issue of individual response.

Very informative. So Nolva @ 10mgs ED could possibly be a decent substitute for an AI? And it doesnt negatively effect lipid values?

[MuscleInk]

Very informative. So Nolva @ 10mgs ED could possibly be a decent substitute for an AI? And it doesnt negatively effect lipid values?

Correct. I'm picking up tamoxifen next week to use instead of Adex. I've been running Adex at .5mg for two weeks due to E levels. I'm pretty sure my lipid profile will look like hell right now.

[Metalject]

Very informative. So Nolva @ 10mgs ED could possibly be a decent substitute for an AI? And it doesnt negatively effect lipid values?

Should improve cholesterol.