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    Quote Originally Posted by Lazarov View Post
    I already bought the Adex. If it's a huge difference I'll buy the Aromasin too.
    Aromasin is a bit stronger but remember your cycle is not huge and he adex will do you fine as well. ! or the other is good for most.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lunk1 View Post
    Aromasin is a bit stronger but remember your cycle is not huge and he adex will do you fine as well. ! or the other is good for most.
    Cool, if I ever do another cycle, I'll consider Aromasin.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lazarov View Post
    Cool, if I ever do another cycle, I'll consider Aromasin.
    Not to get you fired up again...not my intent at all! I really hope you reconsider this decisio at your age. If I didnt truelly care about your health than I would just so venture forth and good luck.

    I REALLY think you can make your goals without taking these unneccessary risks. This isn't coming from a hypocrite that did it and now tell you not to. This is from nearly a 40 year old man that waited till he was 35 or so and felt that natural potential was slipping away with age.

    I would love to see you do some posting in nutrition and in the lifting forums and see if there is some tweaking that can get you what you want without risk. I mean is it more important to reach your goals or more important to say your on steroids. Again...no reason to blow up. I'm just speaking from the heart (and no I am not trying to be your parent) just a responsible adult.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lunk1

    Not to get you fired up again...not my intent at all! I really hope you reconsider this decisio at your age. If I didnt truelly care about your health than I would just so venture forth and good luck.

    I REALLY think you can make your goals without taking these unneccessary risks. This isn't coming from a hypocrite that did it and now tell you not to. This is from nearly a 40 year old man that waited till he was 35 or so and felt that natural potential was slipping away with age.

    I would love to see you do some posting in nutrition and in the lifting forums and see if there is some tweaking that can get you what you want without risk. I mean is it more important to reach your goals or more important to say your on steroids. Again...no reason to blow up. I'm just speaking from the heart (and no I am not trying to be your parent) just a responsible adult.
    I agree with Lunk. OP was encouraged to wait but he is clearly hell bent on doing this. It's your decision but your age the risks of impairing your endocrine system are not in your favor.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lunk1 View Post
    Not to get you fired up again...not my intent at all! I really hope you reconsider this decisio at your age. If I didnt truelly care about your health than I would just so venture forth and good luck.

    I REALLY think you can make your goals without taking these unneccessary risks. This isn't coming from a hypocrite that did it and now tell you not to. This is from nearly a 40 year old man that waited till he was 35 or so and felt that natural potential was slipping away with age.

    I would love to see you do some posting in nutrition and in the lifting forums and see if there is some tweaking that can get you what you want without risk. I mean is it more important to reach your goals or more important to say your on steroids. Again...no reason to blow up. I'm just speaking from the heart (and no I am not trying to be your parent) just a responsible adult.
    I got upset because that other guy was being rude, that's all. Anyways, I really do appreciate your concern. During these next few months I'll try to find out EXACTLY how big a risk it is to do ONE cycle of test.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lazarov View Post
    I got upset because that other guy was being rude, that's all. Anyways, I really do appreciate your concern. During these next few months I'll try to find out EXACTLY how big a risk it is to do ONE cycle of test.
    I remember you asked Austinite who told you what happened to him after one small test cycle. Read his thread about what hppened. If that doesnt change your mind thn nothing will

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lunk1 View Post
    I remember you asked Austinite who told you what happened to him after one small test cycle. Read his thread about what hppened. If that doesnt change your mind thn nothing will
    Yes, I did read his thread. But the skin pigmentation on his back isn't something that happens all the time. It's pretty strange and unfortunate.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lazarov View Post
    Yes, I did read his thread. But the skin pigmentation on his back isn't something that happens all the time. It's pretty strange and unfortunate.
    I agree Austinites case is an extreme but I can think of a fist full of guys who are dealing with symptoms ranging from high Bp and high cholesterol to extreme cases of ED and of course being on TRT for life. Many from ONE cycle that was done way too young. I bet there are even more that will not come forward. It's just a simple case of cost outweighing the benifit.

    Again I urge you to please consider your age and the risks associated with AAS use at an early age before making your decision. I will not harp on it any longer.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lazarov View Post
    I got upset because that other guy was being rude, that's all. Anyways, I really do appreciate your concern. During these next few months I'll try to find out EXACTLY how big a risk it is to do ONE cycle of test.
    There is getting upset and there is blatant flaming and going over board. I hope you get punished for your nonsene.

    I've been here a long time and never lost my cool with another members and blatantly flamed them like you did. Learn to control yourself or get lost.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lunk1 View Post
    Not to get you fired up again...not my intent at all! I really hope you reconsider this decisio at your age. If I didnt truelly care about your health than I would just so venture forth and good luck.

    I REALLY think you can make your goals without taking these unneccessary risks. This isn't coming from a hypocrite that did it and now tell you not to. This is from nearly a 40 year old man that waited till he was 35 or so and felt that natural potential was slipping away with age.

    I would love to see you do some posting in nutrition and in the lifting forums and see if there is some tweaking that can get you what you want without risk. I mean is it more important to reach your goals or more important to say your on steroids. Again...no reason to blow up. I'm just speaking from the heart (and no I am not trying to be your parent) just a responsible adult.
    How old is he?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Swifto View Post
    How old is he?
    21 yo

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    I'm 21 Swifto.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lazarov View Post
    I'm 21 Swifto.
    My advice to you (if you care to take it) is not to cycle. Yes, I cycled at 19 years of age and now at almost 27 I wish I didnt. Why? Because I got such bad acne that I do not take my top of in public due to scarring. Its faded, but I still get it and have it even to this day.

    I bounced back fine but I was not one of the usual cases IMO. I have forgotten how many times I have had a newbie PM me and ask me what to do panicing as he cant get his dick hard, has no energy and has a total testosterone level of 200. You may or may not bounce back fine after doing steroids, I cant tell if you will or wont, but it happens. Those cases then end up on HRT at 21 years of age injecting testosterone in their glutes every 1-2 weeks for the rest of their natural life.

    IF you cycle, take the neccessary steps and limit ANY damage you may do. Use HCG, use an AI, limit the cycle length, take time off, get BW done prior to your cycle and after PCT (4-5 weeks after PCT is done), understand you may limit your growth, end up with scarring like me, or a small case of gyno (again like me).

    I dont suggest you use Testosterone at your age. Tbol or Var would be what I would do now if I could turn back time. Or Hdrol the OTC pro-hormone.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Swifto View Post
    My advice to you (if you care to take it) is not to cycle. Yes, I cycled at 19 years of age and now at almost 27 I wish I didnt. Why? Because I got such bad acne that I do not take my top of in public due to scarring. Its faded, but I still get it and have it even to this day.

    I bounced back fine but I was not one of the usual cases IMO. I have forgotten how many times I have had a newbie PM me and ask me what to do panicing as he cant get his dick hard, has no energy and has a total testosterone level of 200. You may or may not bounce back fine after doing steroids, I cant tell if you will or wont, but it happens. Those cases then end up on HRT at 21 years of age injecting testosterone in their glutes every 1-2 weeks for the rest of their natural life.

    IF you cycle, take the neccessary steps and limit ANY damage you may do. Use HCG, use an AI, limit the cycle length, take time off, get BW done prior to your cycle and after PCT (4-5 weeks after PCT is done), understand you may limit your growth, end up with scarring like me, or a small case of gyno (again like me).

    I dont suggest you use Testosterone at your age. Tbol or Var would be what I would do now if I could turn back time. Or Hdrol the OTC pro-hormone.
    Jesus Swifto...I assumed you were as old as dirt. 27???? Damn kid yet lol....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Swifto View Post
    My advice to you (if you care to take it) is not to cycle. Yes, I cycled at 19 years of age and now at almost 27 I wish I didnt. Why? Because I got such bad acne that I do not take my top of in public due to scarring. Its faded, but I still get it and have it even to this day.

    I bounced back fine but I was not one of the usual cases IMO. I have forgotten how many times I have had a newbie PM me and ask me what to do panicing as he cant get his dick hard, has no energy and has a total testosterone level of 200. You may or may not bounce back fine after doing steroids, I cant tell if you will or wont, but it happens. Those cases then end up on HRT at 21 years of age injecting testosterone in their glutes every 1-2 weeks for the rest of their natural life.

    IF you cycle, take the neccessary steps and limit ANY damage you may do. Use HCG, use an AI, limit the cycle length, take time off, get BW done prior to your cycle and after PCT (4-5 weeks after PCT is done), understand you may limit your growth, end up with scarring like me, or a small case of gyno (again like me).

    I dont suggest you use Testosterone at your age. Tbol or Var would be what I would do now if I could turn back time. Or Hdrol the OTC pro-hormone.
    I do care to take it. Hopefully I'll bounce back like you did.

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