Macros On First Ever Test Cycle

[MuscleInk]

And yea, I'm done asking about my cycle on here. I'll just ask my cousin and a friend for advice instead.

Unfortunate. I wouldn't ask my dentist about a liver problem any more than I would ask my doctor about a tooth ache, but hopefully your cousin and friends are experts.

I know you've taken some heat about your cycle and age so I'm not going to start in on you about it. I've already seen the threads anyway.

I am curious why you think you need .25mg of Adex DAILY. It is one of the milder AIs but are you aware of the risks in taking Adex daily even at small doses? Perhaps your cousin and friend work in the medical fields, I don't know. I on the other hand am trained in medicine so if you'll be patient just a few seconds longer, I'll enumerate the possible risks for you just so you are aware of what you could be in for:

- lymphedema
- insomnia
- headaches
- depression
- nausea
- hypercholesterolemia
- rash
- hypertension
- angina
- bone pain
- blood clots
- stroke
- diarrhea
- constipation
- arthritic pain

[Lazarov]

Unfortunate. I wouldn't ask my dentist about a liver problem any more than I would ask my doctor about a tooth ache, but hopefully your cousin and friends are experts.

I know you've taken some heat about your cycle and age so I'm not going to start in on you about it. I've already seen the threads anyway.

I am curious why you think you need .25mg of Adex DAILY. It is one of the milder AIs but are you aware of the risks in taking Adex daily even at small doses? Perhaps your cousin and friend work in the medical fields, I don't know. I on the other hand am trained in medicine so if you'll be patient just a few seconds longer, I'll enumerate the possible risks for you just so you are aware of what you could be in for:

- lymphedema
- insomnia
- headaches
- depression
- nausea
- hypercholesterolemia
- rash
- hypertension
- angina
- bone pain
- blood clots
- stroke
- diarrhea
- constipation
- arthritic pain

I changed it to .25 EOD, I posted this thread more than a week ago. So maybe to eliminate the risk I should not use it continuously during the cycle but only with signs of gyno.

[MuscleInk]

I changed it to .25 EOD, I posted this thread more than a week ago. So maybe to eliminate the risk I should not use it continuously during the cycle but only with signs of gyno.

It's not the gyno per se Laz you want to be cautious of. Elevated levels of estrogen create significant cholesterol and STROKE risks. If you are going to cycle you should use at least a low dose aromatase inhibitor!!!

[Lazarov]

It's not the gyno per se Laz you want to be cautious of. Elevated levels of estrogen create significant cholesterol and STROKE risks. If you are going to cycle you should use at least a low dose aromatase inhibitor!!!

Well yea, Adex at .25 EOD should be enough right? It seems Adex is a lot of people's favorite AI.

[MuscleInk]

Well yea, Adex at .25 EOD should be enough right? It seems Adex is a lot of people's favorite AI.

Yes. Adex is usually the better AI to start with IMO. 0.25mg EOD is the common dose. Adex acts quick and has a half life of 46 hours and is easiest to tolerate. Letro (femara) and exemestane (aromasin) are slightly more effective but the side effect profiles are somewhat harsher.

Everyone has their preference but I'd say start with Adex and switch to the others if your estradiol is not managed effectively.

[Lazarov]

Yes. Adex is usually the better AI to start with IMO. 0.25mg EOD is the common dose. Adex acts quick and has a half life of 46 hours and is easiest to tolerate. Letro (femara) and exemestane (aromasin) are slightly more effective but the side effect profiles are somewhat harsher.

Everyone has their preference but I'd say start with Adex and switch to the others if your estradiol is not managed effectively.

I have the adex and nolva on hand, if I notice signs of estrogen abundance, I've heard you can use a little nolva during a cycle as well. Is this true?

[MuscleInk]

I have the adex and nolva on hand, if I notice signs of estrogen abundance, I've heard you can use a little nolva during a cycle as well. Is this true?

Yes, some guys do because its a SERM not an AI and works through a different MOA. Most people use it on PCT though.

[billgates]

I have the adex and nolva on hand, if I notice signs of estrogen abundance, I've heard you can use a little nolva during a cycle as well. Is this true?

Dude if you're asking questions like this you do not belong anywhere near steroids. I know the fascination with getting bigger can be overwhelming, but if you screw this up you're in deep shit for the rest of your life.

Not only that but I think you will find that taking stuff will not produce the results you expected. If your diet isn't perfect, and your training consistent, pumping roids into your body will do nothing.

Seriously just get your diet right and research for another year before going anywhere near a needle.

[Lazarov]

And regarding HCG, I've read many threads stating that 500iu's a week during cycle is good, then others say that it should be used during the period between the end of your test cycle and before the start of PCT... Very uncertain of which procedure to follow. Any thoughts on this Doc?

[MuscleInk]

I changed it to .25 EOD, I posted this thread more than a week ago. So maybe to eliminate the risk I should not use it continuously during the cycle but only with signs of gyno.

One more thing....and this is just my personal advice and opinion....when most guys say they've done their research, what they really mean is they've read up on some cycles and understand the differences between short and long esters. When dealing with any drugs, I strongly urge people to read as much as available so you understand WHY you are taking the things you are taking, HOW they actually work, and WHAT the risks really are.

I'm a physician Laz and too many guys in here are in too much of a hurry to jump on the steroid bandwagon because of the possible benefits (muscle mass) and really have NOT done enough research. If you think AIs are taken solely to manage gyno, you really haven't done enough research. This comment is NOT to discourage you from using - that's YOUR choice, not mine - rather to encourage you to read a lot more so you are COMPLETELY INFORMED. Ignorance is not bliss in the world of anabolics - it can be dangerous and sometimes deadly. Please keep that in mind and good luck with your decision(s).

[Lazarov]

One more thing....and this is just my personal advice and opinion....when most guys say they've done their research, what they really mean is they've read up on some cycles and understand the differences between short and long esters. When dealing with any drugs, I strongly urge people to read as much as available so you understand WHY you are taking the things you are taking, HOW they actually work, and WHAT the risks really are.

I'm a physician Laz and too many guys in here are in too much of a hurry to jump on the steroid bandwagon because of the possible benefits (muscle mass) and really have NOT done enough research. If you think AIs are taken solely to manage gyno, you really haven't done enough research. This comment is NOT to discourage you from using - that's YOUR choice, not mine - rather to encourage you to read a lot more so you are COMPLETELY INFORMED. Ignorance is not bliss in the world of anabolics - it can be dangerous and sometimes deadly. Please keep that in mind and good luck with your decision(s).

Trust me, I've been learning every day. Thanks for the advice though.

[Lazarov]

And I know that HCG tends to raise estrogen so maybe it's a good idea to take it after the cycle and not during the entire cycle (250iu's *twice weekly).