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    I've read quite a bit on the stuff but I also want to speak directly with individual who have actually used the shit and can give me their feedback. Trust me I am not going into it lightly. I've poured over different websites for literally days just trying to get more information but their is only so much I can learn without speaking to people directly.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Posterchild View Post
    I've read quite a bit on the stuff but I also want to speak directly with individual who have actually used the shit and can give me their feedback. Trust me I am not going into it lightly. I've poured over different websites for literally days just trying to get more information but their is only so much I can learn without speaking to people directly.
    Forgive me if I come off harsh, but you're playing with your endocrine system here, and potentially the rest of your life. I have to initially question a few statements you previously made, if you have read quite a bit:

    Quote Originally Posted by Posterchild View Post
    21 yo male who has been lifting hard (bodybuilding) for about two years.
    The general consensus is that you are too young to be doing this. I may not personally agree, but if you've been reading, you'd be aware of this fact.

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    I don't really know my ass from a hole in the ground.
    You do want to know your ass from a hole in the ground, before you dive into the world of playing with your hormones.

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    Side effects can be kinda nasty.
    Are you aware of the sides associated with a progestin? This is integral in managing a cycle that includes one.

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    I want to know what else I should be taking during the cycle (how much and when, how many times?).
    If you knew the side effects and how they impact you, you'd be aware of their cause, as well as how to combat them.

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    Also what should I do for PCT?
    Again, if you were aware of the impact of the compound, you'd be aware of how to treat what it causes.

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    But I cannot get my hands on any. I'm limited to OTC shit.
    If you cannot find yourself the proper ancillaries, you should refrain from using anabolic and androgenic substances.

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    I've always just had a good diet (lots of whole milk).
    Lots of whole milk should not be the highlight of a "good" diet.

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    So if somebody here could give a detailed layout of how I should do this cycle I'd be really gratefull.
    If you are capable of administering powerful, impacting substances, you should be capable of creating an action plan around it.


    Again, I'm not trying to be a stickler or a dick. I just don't think you're educated enough to dive into what you are planning. Additionally, I don't think you fully understand the potential repercussions of anabolic and androgenic substances, especially given poor practices. A quick Google search of "prohormone, spawn" returned the following chemical formula: "19-norandrosta-4,9 diene-3,17 dione." Then, a quick Google search of that, revealed a ton of key information about it, such as the fact that it is a 19-nor.

    Now, knowing those things, there are some locations here on the forums you should visit, to learn what you need to know.

    Learn about the compound itself (what it is, how it works, it's side effects, how other people's cycles have gone, problems they encountered, etc.):
    http://forums.steroid.com/search.php...8#.UIreG8U72Ah

    Learn about controlling estrogen:
    http://forums.steroid.com/showthread...o#.UIrefMU72Ag

    Learn about controlling progesterone:
    http://forums.steroid.com/forumdispl...)#.UIrd6cU72Ag

    This substance is compared to tren, so why not learn about tren?
    http://forums.steroid.com/showthread...ctively-thread!

    PCT is key, and there is a lot to learn about what to use, how to use it, when to use it, etc.:
    http://forums.steroid.com/forumdispl...)#.UIrd6cU72Ag

    And there is much more to pursue than what I've listed above, but that should get you started.

    Quote Originally Posted by Posterchild View Post
    Honestly gents, I've got diet and lifting down. Iknow hoe to train naturally but I want to give this a shot. I love to lift and just want to get bigger, if the cost of that is some damage to my body so be it. I'm 6'4" 230 Lbs and 7.8% BF. I just want more.
    I have to question that your diet and training are "down" after two years. I've been training for about eight years, and using AAS for roughly a year, and I can assure you my diet and training are not complete. In fact, I'd be willing to bet most people on this board are not 100% satisfied with where they are at this moment in time. There is always room for improvement. Keep in mind, I am not stating you're too young, I am stating you are not ready.
    Last edited by rmbX66t1; 10-26-2012 at 01:15 PM.

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