First AAS cutting Anavar/Winstrol 8 weeks advice

[Lunk1]

How does every 19-22 y.o kid that comes on here end up knowing or working out with so many pro BB's? Hell...I have never even met one lol.

And how can getting test E be a legal issue but Var and Winnie are not???

[fit2bOld]

How does every 19-22 y.o kid that comes on here end up knowing or working out with so many pro BB's? Hell...I have never even met one lol.

And how can getting test E be a legal issue but Var and Winnie are not???

Really X2

[MuscleInk]

How does every 19-22 y.o kid that comes on here end up knowing or working out with so many pro BB's? Hell...I have never even met one lol.

And how can getting test E be a legal issue but Var and Winnie are not???

My thoughts precisely.....and if these so called pros are advising them, why come here and ask?

Happy to help these guys....if they are willing to listen.

Milk Thistle for liver health? Ok, good luck. The stuff is nothing more than an antioxidant that won't do a damn thing for liver health. Fish oil? For what purpose? Glucosamine - who's idea. Minimal effects at best for joint health to combat dryness caused by winnie.

I see nothing discussed to manage the acid reflux, gastric motility effects, or impaired stomach flora, that will occur from orals as well.

[Ariy]

My thoughts precisely.....and if these so called pros are advising them, why come here and ask?

Happy to help these guys....if they are willing to listen.

Milk Thistle for liver health? Ok, good luck. The stuff is nothing more than an antioxidant that won't do a damn thing for liver health. Fish oil? For what purpose? Glucosamine - who's idea. Minimal effects at best for joint health to combat dryness caused by winnie.

I see nothing discussed to manage the acid reflux, gastric motility effects, or impaired stomach flora, that will occur from orals as well.

I'm here as this sounds very heavy for a first that's why and I'm not entirely Sure about this cycle
And your right I didn't think about those side effects you mentioned
I clearly have a lot more research to do
Which is why I'm asking for advice and if someone can point me in the direction to what I should look into
And support supplements
I'm having a hard time finding the major side effects and how to dose and stack.

Please advise

[MuscleInk]

I'm here as this sounds very heavy for a first that's why and I'm not entirely Sure about this cycle
And your right I didn't think about those side effects you mentioned
I clearly have a lot more research to do
Which is why I'm asking for advice and if someone can point me in the direction to what I should look into
And support supplements
I'm having a hard time finding the major side effects and how to dose and stack.

Please advise

Ariy,

You are doing great just being here and asking brother. You aren't an idiot man, just new and lacking knowledge but you are in OUR house now and we'll take good care of you!

Songdog is making a critical point. DIET alone will drive gains or losses more than gear. In tandem to any cycle, you really need a solid nutrition plan to achieve any result and maintain it.

As for a cycle, a first cycle should ALWAYS be a single testosterone ester such as test-c or test-e for about 12 weeks, followed by a PCT no later than 14 days after your last dose.

A single injectable test ester will allow you to gain mass, see how you react to the compound, minimize side effects, and you won't need to worry about liver strain. With a proper nutrition plan as advocated by Songdog, you can keep the gains lean. Clen isn't the best idea as it has some unpleasant side effects and can cause some long term cardiac (heart) problems. There are safer ways to keep gains lean and give you that shredded look you are after!