Different injection sites different results

[Bigshotvictoria]

TBO..most if not all are garbage in reality. Lots of sugar and caffiene mainly. That being said I still use them on occasion if for nothing more that the placebo effect.

Wont hurt if you choose to but it isn't going to be of any greater benifit either!

You just get stuck with an unknown amount of the stuff that can actually help, the "proprietary blend". I make iced green tea (no sugar) and mix in L-arginine/AKG, glutamine and BCAA's 1/2 hour before my workout. It's a hell of a lot cheaper, no garbage, and you actually know you're gettin the right stuff at the right dose. I might get knocked for this, but I find it works well for me. Just some food for thought.

[Lunk1]

You just get stuck with an unknown amount of the stuff that can actually help, the "proprietary blend". I make iced green tea (no sugar) and mix in L-arginine/AKG, glutamine and BCAA's 1/2 hour before my workout. It's a hell of a lot cheaper, no garbage, and you actually know you're gettin the right stuff at the right dose. I might get knocked for this, but I find it works well for me. Just some food for thought.

Yes BSV...mixing your own Pre W/O is a great idea. Getting the stuff you need and not all the crap you dont. Plus you control the quantity.

[Bigshotvictoria]

Yes BSV...mixing your own Pre W/O is a great idea. Getting the stuff you need and not all the crap you dont. Plus you control the quantity.

Other than protein, bcaa, glutamine, creatine, and arginine/AKG, I think most supps are a huge scam. The only one I ever really liked was Plasmajet, and I haven't found an all day pump supp since that even compares. Trying Nitrix now, that's $60 of chicken breast I'm not eating. That's one of the reason I love this forum. Everybody preaches proper diet, training, and if the situation warrants it responsible AAS usage. And of course good old fashion hard work. I think that's why so many newbs get upset with the advise they're given. Finding out supps and AAS aren't magic is, well, like finding out there is no Santa.

Sorry for the rant OP, having a new member who is open and willing to learn is a breath of fresh air for the old farts (Lunk) on this website. Believe me, they'll bend over backwards to get you where you want to be.

[Doppy]

I do and am willing to put in all the work and diet I've been in the gym since I was 6 literally ( wrestler through college) even dabbled with d Bol in college had no idea what I was doing. But I think father time is creeping up on me as I'm 34 now and putting in seems like twice the work at the gym to BARELY keep what I have developed. I am 6'2 215 and hover between 10 and 11 percent through you guys I've decided on a test e cycle 350 pw 11 weeks with the proper pct ?

[Lunk1]

I do and am willing to put in all the work and diet I've been in the gym since I was 6 literally ( wrestler through college) even dabbled with d Bol in college had no idea what I was doing. But I think father time is creeping up on me as I'm 34 now and putting in seems like twice the work at the gym to BARELY keep what I have developed. I am 6'2 215 and hover between 10 and 11 percent through you guys I've decided on a test e cycle 350 pw 11 weeks with the proper pct ?

Let's fix this for as well...
500 mg EW (divided by 2 pins every 3.5 days) 12 weeks!

AI: Arimedex .25mg EOD

What is your proper PCT and can you get HCG???