Ending First Test E (Only) Cycle. How/When to being cutting.

[P.Money]

See, this is a great example of what not to do. Why would you want to start a cycle when you're 20% BF? I would rigorously cut down my body fat to 10-12% and then proceed to cycle. This can all be done with dieting alone. I don't understand what it is with people and steroids. They just think it's a shortcut to being jacked and having a 6 pack. IT'S NOT.

1. Diet - 60% of what you look like
2. Cardio
3. Training - HARD TRAINING.

It's such a simple formula, yet no one wants to put the time and work in. Let's just inject ourselves with UGL gear, pop pills and hope for the best.

[1010101]

See, this is a great example of what not to do. Why would you want to start a cycle when you're 20% BF? I would rigorously cut down my body fat to 10-12% and then proceed to cycle. This can all be done with dieting alone. I don't understand what it is with people and steroids. They just think it's a shortcut to being jacked and having a 6 pack. IT'S NOT.

1. Diet - 60% of what you look like
2. Cardio
3. Training - HARD TRAINING.

It's such a simple formula, yet no one wants to put the time and work in. Let's just inject ourselves with UGL gear, pop pills and hope for the best.

I was 157 pounds...Cutting to 10-12% bf would have put me at about 140-145 pounds...Fuarkkkkkk that
I thought of what you are saying it just made more sense to bulk and I have read that beginners should always bulk their first cycle.

[calstate23]

I was 157 pounds...Cutting to 10-12% bf would have put me at about 140-145 pounds...Fuarkkkkkk that
I thought of what you are saying it just made more sense to bulk and I have read that beginners should always bulk their first cycle.

It is best to get to single digit bodyfat % BEFORE starting any hormones...Including steroids...

Who cares if you would have been 140 lbs it would have mostly been lean muscle tissue that you were left with...Nobody wants fat, so that extra 17 lbs was meaningless...

The reason it is best to be in single digits is because #1 you will respond better to your cycle and #2 typically people cycle to gain weight, whether it is supposedly a "lean bulk" or not...The point is the person will be gaining weight...

And to do this you need extra calories, meaning you will put on some fat during your cycle...So you don't want to start out high and then add more to it

[1010101]

Yeah, I mean I 100% agree with what has been posted. My bf% was way to high and I did not realize how much actual weight I would gain. I definitely 100% will not start another cycle until I am under 14% bf. My goal right now is to keep as much of my gains as possible and to be honest all my lifts increased drastically. I am still able to do close to what I could do on test e. This was a learning experience and at worst I am glad I did not go full retard and take Deca/winstrol and all the crazy random stacks noobs always throw together. I am plan on updating this thread every week or so. Lets see how much muscle I keep. I have photos at 155 start of cycle so I will be able to put picture next to picture and see the end result. Appreciate the info

[calstate23]

Yeah, I mean I 100% agree with what has been posted. My bf% was way to high and I did not realize how much actual weight I would gain. I definitely 100% will not start another cycle until I am under 14% bf. My goal right now is to keep as much of my gains as possible and to be honest all my lifts increased drastically. I am still able to do close to what I could do on test e. This was a learning experience and at worst I am glad I did not go full retard and take Deca/winstrol and all the crazy random stacks noobs always throw together. I am plan on updating this thread every week or so. Lets see how much muscle I keep. I have photos at 155 start of cycle so I will be able to put picture next to picture and see the end result. Appreciate the info

Good to hear...At least you learned something...Honestly, I would try to get down to 10% and less...Less even better, but no more then 10%...If you do that, you will love your next cycle 10 TIMES better, I guarantee it...

And to get down to 10% and less you need to have good diet, workout routine, and cardio...Meaning, when you do get down this low you will already be in hardcore training mode and hopefully know a lot more on how to eat better foods...

Bodybuilding is only about knowledge and dedication...I don't care what type of genetics anyone has...If they want to, they can get to single digit Bodyfat%....How IMPORTANT is knowledge in Bodybuilding? I'll refer to my favorite quote, " A donkey can train 3 times HARDER then a race horse, but he will NEVER win the Kentucky Derby"....You have to train smart, just because you train hard doesn't mean you'll reach your goal.