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    Mickey
    *Yeah ive gone for 1000mg pw of test, ive done cycles in the past and wanted to replace a non test steroid with test rather than 2mlsust 2mldeca for example.
    *the prop is for the end of the cycle so the long esters clear and pct can be better judged and started sooner.
    *with aromatizing i find that i need 1mg anastrozole ed minimum to keep gyno under control.
    *ive always enjoyed the gains from dbol i just wanted to maybe keep the cycle as clean as possible using only test but the first 6 weeks on dbol are undoubtably worth it.
    *i agree the deca is probably going for over kill a bit, perhaps add that in a bit further down the line before considering hgh, depending how my gains go.
    *this is where im really puzzled and a bit jubious about taking hcg thorughout the cycle, i was told to do it at the end and thats the procedure ive always followed. also i read somewhere that prolonged continuous use of hcg can make your body unable to produce the LH by itself upon discontinued use and that the hcg stops working, blocked leydig cells or something? is it ok to go for hcg at the end as i also thought it didnt have an effect if the steroids in your system were high?
    *clomid i was going to use but i havent as of yet and the main reason for this is i read it can effect your vision.
    *heres where i hit another brick wall, i have read of people being on cycle alot longer than being off and my main reason for this is i want to keep my test levels high and keep my gains at their best, to come off for 3 or 4 months seems like a nightmare but obviously i am concerned about health and doing it properly.
    thanks for your advice its much appreciated and very helpful.

    BigSiv
    I think ive answered some of your comments above so ill type in what ive missed...
    *I thought 1000mg of test pw was a good amount, this is what im currently on now and have read of ranges from 500mg-1000mg as common procedure. It is test only with no deca, tren etc.
    *With the sust having prop in it, I just planning on switching to prop only at the end to clear the long esters. possibly going week1-4 sust, week5-12 cyp, week 13 break, week 14-16 prop.
    *the time off part is worrying me slightly and im thinking im going to have to have longer off than i thought.
    *my diet is 5 protein shakes ed with the remaining callories made up of clean foods.
    Thanks for your advice also and none taken, i have done research, used steroids before and had advice, however i wouldnt claim to be totally knowledgable, this is my first thread on here and im open to advice, i think im going to use test boosters to extend pct before going back on and need to think about the hcg situation.

    Thanks again

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    Quote Originally Posted by BigGuns89 View Post
    Mickey
    *Yeah ive gone for 1000mg pw of test, ive done cycles in the past and wanted to replace a non test steroid with test rather than 2mlsust 2mldeca for example.
    *the prop is for the end of the cycle so the long esters clear and pct can be better judged and started sooner.
    *with aromatizing i find that i need 1mg anastrozole ed minimum to keep gyno under control.
    *ive always enjoyed the gains from dbol i just wanted to maybe keep the cycle as clean as possible using only test but the first 6 weeks on dbol are undoubtably worth it.
    *i agree the deca is probably going for over kill a bit, perhaps add that in a bit further down the line before considering hgh, depending how my gains go.
    *this is where im really puzzled and a bit jubious about taking hcg thorughout the cycle, i was told to do it at the end and thats the procedure ive always followed. also i read somewhere that prolonged continuous use of hcg can make your body unable to produce the LH by itself upon discontinued use and that the hcg stops working, blocked leydig cells or something? is it ok to go for hcg at the end as i also thought it didnt have an effect if the steroids in your system were high? Nonsense. 12 wks on cycle is not considered "prolonged." But i understand your concerns. They are unfounded however.
    *clomid i was going to use but i havent as of yet and the main reason for this is i read it can effect your vision. It does at higher levels than what is typically recommended here. However, this has to be determined as most users are perfectly fine with does under 100mg.
    *heres where i hit another brick wall, i have read of people being on cycle alot longer than being off and my main reason for this is i want to keep my test levels high and keep my gains at their best, to come off for 3 or 4 months seems like a nightmare but obviously i am concerned about health and doing it properly.
    thanks for your advice its much appreciated and very helpful. Proper diet and exercise will maintain most of your gains. If you have low test levels, perhaps you could explore TRT/HRT after visiting your family doc and review the results of a full blood assay.
    Other than that, you appear to have things under control.

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