Difference in dosing of long and short esters

[Lunk1]

I'm a little confused about how the results can be similar between a cycle of test prop and test e, as an example. I understand that the short ester has a shorter cycle and kicks in faster, but the mgs of test are so dramaticly different that it doesn't make sense to me that the results would be similar.

As I understand it, a test prop cycle would be 8-10 weeks. At 100mg eod, that would total 300mg one week and 400mg the other for a total of 2800mg-3500mg. A test e cycle of 250mg twice per week for 12 weeks would be a total of 6000mg. Maybe these numbers are meaningless, but it's such a large difference that I'm having trouble wrapping my head around how the results can be similar.

Nobody said 100mg is the rule! When doing EOD injections just multiply by 3.5 and that is your average across the board. If you are interested in 500mg EW then do 500mg EW. Does not matter if it's prop or E. If you multiply 150mg X 3.5 it's 525mg EW. Close enough....

I understand the confusion and have also seen where some end up rec. lower doses for some reason when discussing prop. 300-500 is a good starter no matter which ester you choose.

[lestat85]

Nobody said 100mg is the rule! When doing EOD injections just multiply by 3.5 and that is your average across the board. If you are interested in 500mg EW then do 500mg EW. Does not matter if it's prop or E. If you multiply 150mg X 3.5 it's 525mg EW. Close enough....

I understand the confusion and have also seen where some end up rec. lower doses for some reason when discussing prop. 300-500 is a good starter no matter which ester you choose.

It sounds like the 100mg eod recomendation is more for keeping the math simple, than it is that less is required. Am I understanding you correctly?

[Lunk1]

It sounds like the 100mg eod recomendation is more for keeping the math simple, than it is that less is required. Am I understanding you correctly?

150mg seems like simple math too lol.

I think for most its a matter of CC's consideration. Most test E is 250mg/ML so 2 equal doses of 1 CC is 500mg EW
While most prop is 100mg/ML so 1 CC X 3.5 is 350mg EW

I still prefer 500mg o (or close to it) as a starting point, but thats my preference and some may say 300mg or others may say 400mg!

[lestat85]

150mg seems like simple math too lol.

I think for most its a matter of CC's consideration. Most test E is 250mg/ML so 2 equal doses of 1 CC is 500mg EW
While most prop is 100mg/ML so 1 CC X 3.5 is 350mg EW

I still prefer 500mg o (or close to it) as a starting point, but thats my preference and some may say 300mg or others may say 400mg!

Math has never really been a problem for me, just seemed from your post that it must be the recommendation because its simplest to say 1 cc (100mg), rather than explain the math. I've seen some guys get rather confused on what seemed, to me, to be very simple math.

I'm coming up to the end of my first cycle (1.5 weeks left) of 500mg/week test e and have been starting to look at what to do for my next cycle. I'll be trying to get everything ready well in advance, as I won't be doing another until March or April at the earliest. I don't like to leave things like this till the last minute, never know what will go wrong and I prefer having time to deal with any problems, so everything can go smoothly.

A lot of people seem to love prop and I've been reading that there is less water retention. I just didn't understand why the dose was recomended so much lower and wanted to make sure that i understood before making my decision.

[Lunk1]

Math has never really been a problem for me, just seemed from your post that it must be the recommendation because its simplest to say 1 cc (100mg), rather than explain the math. I've seen some guys get rather confused on what seemed, to me, to be very simple math.

I'm coming up to the end of my first cycle (1.5 weeks left) of 500mg/week test e and have been starting to look at what to do for my next cycle. I'll be trying to get everything ready well in advance, as I won't be doing another until March or April at the earliest. I don't like to leave things like this till the last minute, never know what will go wrong and I prefer having time to deal with any problems, so everything can go smoothly.

A lot of people seem to love prop and I've been reading that there is less water retention. I just didn't understand why the dose was recomended so much lower and wanted to make sure that i understood before making my decision.

The only TRUE benifit to prop is the "kick in" time and the quicker your on PCT (although you can finish up an E cyclewith prop to acomplish this). Also some will get wrapped up in the ester weights and make an issue that prop is more test gram for gram (not enough to cry about imo).

Water retention is about diet and proper AI usage...NOT which test you choose. This is more common BS than just about anything (other than prop causes PIP or tren causes cough).

To me it comes down to timing. If I an trying to het a goal by a certain time and know that cycling may be more difficult (like during summer) then I might use prop but if time is not an issue I like to take it slow and steady with E

[lestat85]

The only TRUE benifit to prop is the "kick in" time and the quicker your on PCT (although you can finish up an E cyclewith prop to acomplish this). Also some will get wrapped up in the ester weights and make an issue that prop is more test gram for gram (not enough to cry about imo).

Water retention is about diet and proper AI usage...NOT which test you choose. This is more common BS than just about anything (other than prop causes PIP or tren causes cough).

To me it comes down to timing. If I an trying to het a goal by a certain time and know that cycling may be more difficult (like during summer) then I might use prop but if time is not an issue I like to take it slow and steady with E

Thanks for the info. It makes a lot more sense to me now.