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    Quote Originally Posted by rayman21
    oh ok thank you, how would you recommend i space that out, also when the test finally kicks in how would i know? you cant do bloodwork in my country (well not that i know off), is there any 'feeling'?
    Yes, I'd recommend running test only as a first cycle but if you are certain on the dbol, you could do 40mg at once or split it 20/20 and take 20mg in AM and 20mg early PM. My recommendation is usually with food and to have probiotics and digestive enzymes in hand. Orals can alter the stomach flora and cause some "distress" in some people. Takin the oral with food and probiotics will reduce the sides. Not everyone has that issue however. Supplementing with taurine would be recommended an stay well hydrated.

    What are you using for liver health?

    There are many signs you could encounter when the test kicks. Increased libido, insomnia (your dose is low enough this shouldn't occur), increased energy, acne, increase in appetite. Everyone experiences it a little differently. Increased libido is most common. Strength increases will likely be seen but strength and size also come down to your daily intake.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MuscleInk View Post
    Yes, I'd recommend running test only as a first cycle but if you are certain on the dbol, you could do 40mg at once or split it 20/20 and take 20mg in AM and 20mg early PM. My recommendation is usually with food and to have probiotics and digestive enzymes in hand. Orals can alter the stomach flora and cause some "distress" in some people. Takin the oral with food and probiotics will reduce the sides. Not everyone has that issue however. Supplementing with taurine would be recommended an stay well hydrated.

    What are you using for liver health?

    There are many signs you could encounter when the test kicks. Increased libido, insomnia (your dose is low enough this shouldn't occur), increased energy, acne, increase in appetite. Everyone experiences it a little differently. Increased libido is most common. Strength increases will likely be seen but strength and size also come down to your daily intake.
    i was thinking maybe milk thistle and vitamin C or is it vitamin D that people usually take for liver health? and ill look into probiotics and digestive enzymes. i may start off with a smaller dose and gradually move up if i am not experiencing the stomach upsets etc, maybe 20mg up to a max of 50mg

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    1st cycle we recommend test only 500mg a week.And I dont take nothing on a empty stomach.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rayman21

    i was thinking maybe milk thistle and vitamin C or is it vitamin D that people usually take for liver health? and ill look into probiotics and digestive enzymes. i may start off with a smaller dose and gradually move up if i am not experiencing the stomach upsets etc, maybe 20mg up to a max of 50mg
    Milk thistle is largely crap. You'd be better off with TUDCA or Liv52 and NAC.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MuscleInk

    Yes, I'd recommend running test only as a first cycle but if you are certain on the dbol, you could do 40mg at once or split it 20/20 and take 20mg in AM and 20mg early PM. My recommendation is usually with food and to have probiotics and digestive enzymes in hand. Orals can alter the stomach flora and cause some "distress" in some people. Takin the oral with food and probiotics will reduce the sides. Not everyone has that issue however. Supplementing with taurine would be recommended an stay well hydrated.

    What are you using for liver health?

    There are many signs you could encounter when the test kicks. Increased libido, insomnia (your dose is low enough this shouldn't occur), increased energy, acne, increase in appetite. Everyone experiences it a little differently. Increased libido is most common. Strength increases will likely be seen but strength and size also come down to your daily intake.
    Not trying to jack the OP thread but interested and curious. You said for 40mg Ed of dbol to split it 20mg am and 20 mg pm. I have been told to split 4 10mg tabs through the day? Is there a up side to doing 20/20 split. I would think you would feel it more if you did it your way. Any advice or input.?

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