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    Quote Originally Posted by boxingfan30 View Post
    That's interesting... many feel that adding more mass doesn't help with power (in terms of striking) I myself disagree with that statement and think it helps at least to some degree.
    So Pacquiao can hit as hard as Tyson???????

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    So Pacquiao can hit as hard as Tyson???????
    No, Pacquiao needs to worry about not getting schooled by Marquez and Floyd. A reporter I know has been in quite deep with PED use in boxing... suddenly manny didn't look as good and couldn't hurt a 135 lb fighter moving up, but was able to hurt Mosley who had an all time great chin? Come on.

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    Quote Originally Posted by boxingfan30 View Post
    No, Pacquiao needs to worry about not getting schooled by Marquez and Floyd. A reporter I know has been in quite deep with PED use in boxing... suddenly manny didn't look as good and couldn't hurt a 135 lb fighter moving up, but was able to hurt Mosley who had an all time great chin? Come on.
    When you are thin, there's a big limit to your abilities. Hence the need for weight divisions. If you are bigger you often need less skill to be able to fight. As long as you can still move well. My trainer in high school was 130-140 kg benching 500lb and was quicker than me as a 60kg weakling.
    Last edited by Tasmaniac; 11-10-2012 at 04:14 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tasmaniac View Post
    When you are thin, there's a big limit to your abilities. Hence the need for weight divisions. If you are bigger you often need less skill to be able to fight. As long as you can still move well. My trainer in high school was 130-140 kg benching 500lb and was quicker than me as a 60kg weakling.
    Movement is a big part of boxing or fighting in general. Fighting is an art... it's not about aggression so much IMO. However, i'm not sure what you are getting at... so someone was quicker than you that was bigger? I'm saying that adding mass IMO does make one able to move quicker and to torque the body to punch for instance... therefore the muscles that help the body to move that are stronger are going to result in a better, and quicker punch. Being a puncher is more of a gift, but it all i'm saying is that it can be improved.

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    Quote Originally Posted by boxingfan30 View Post
    Movement is a big part of boxing or fighting in general. Fighting is an art... it's not about aggression so much IMO. However, i'm not sure what you are getting at... so someone was quicker than you that was bigger? I'm saying that adding mass IMO does make one able to move quicker and to torque the body to punch for instance... therefore the muscles that help the body to move that are stronger are going to result in a better, and quicker punch. Being a puncher is more of a gift, but it all i'm saying is that it can be improved.
    Heart is a massive part of being able to fight well. Along with some good footwork. And as a skinny fella, your ability will always be limited. But when you can hit hard your ability goes way up. Having a good size is also good because you can take a few hits. A good style of fighting to learn how to take hits is kyokushin karate. The theory is that if you feel pain while you train, you'll feel less in a real situation. And probably the most important factor is experience. Until I got into fights my training was almost useless. Now you also need to learn a heap of styles. BJJ, boxing, a karate kind of style and Muay Thai give you a great base. Every time I learn a new style I realise how one-dimensional people (including me) are...
    Last edited by Tasmaniac; 11-11-2012 at 03:48 AM.

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