Not even close to what it was back then. Again it was being a kid. My biggest thing for guys under the age of 25 is how fast your life can change, not just your endo system. You really have to be at a serious maturity point to want to stick with this. Its expensive and its time consuming. But, as for losing weight, I agree guys that have been training for years you do not see the fluctuation you do see with newer users, they have built a solid foundation which I mentioned. And I agree as well if they lose majority of their weight its do to from what I have seen lack of motivation which is generally a result of the gains they experienced with AAS. You got to have a strong warrior mentality or this will eat you up. But Knox, you know it as well as I do, the majority of guys lose it. Very few that truly stick with it after use, we are really the 1% I call itWill you lose gains when you discontinue AAS? Of course. But the experienced AAS user will lose a hell of lot less than one who is has little or no experience because he has learned how to eat and workout. And the fact that you lost almost 60lbs speaks volumes to me as an AAS user. Your commitment back then isn't what it likely is today, AND your knowledge and experience exceeds what it was then as well.