friend hopped on tbol oral only...

[AlphaMaleDawg]

Cholesterol and liver. Is THAT all? And about the HPTA. How do you know that his HPTA will be fine?

First of all, he is a huge vagina for taking orals only because he doesn't want to inject needles in his ass. Secondly, his hpta will be fine. I am not condoning what he is doing, but I can assure you he won't be shutdown for life from a little tbol lol.

[warmouth]

First of all, he is a huge vagina for taking orals only because he doesn't want to inject needles in his ass. Secondly, his hpta will be fine. I am not condoning what he is doing, but I can assure you he won't be shutdown for life from a little tbol lol.

How do you know? Do you have any evidence to support this theory? I just dont see how you can assure someone this. Pretty bold.

[AlphaMaleDawg]

How do you know? Do you have any evidence to support this theory? I just dont see how you can assure someone this. Pretty bold.

No, but do you have any evidence that he will? 99 out of 100 people at that age will recover from that. Yes I made up that statistic, but it is ridiculous to think there is a good chance he will never recover his natural test. There is no need to exaggerate the implications of what he is doing. And oh yea, he is still a bitch. I think we can both agree on that

[warmouth]

No, but do you have any evidence that he will? 99 out of 100 people at that age will recover from that. Yes I made up that statistic, but it is ridiculous to think there is a good chance he will never recover his natural test. There is no need to exaggerate the implications of what he is doing. And oh yea, he is still a bitch. I think we can both agree on that

We can agree on the last part, but there is much more evidence to prove a supression than not. In fact, a suppression is almost a guarantee with Tbol, as it is a derivitive of Dbol, which causes major supression, if not total shutdown. And since a supression is a fact of this, how can you prove a rebound? It is an impossibility. If a person is shutdown, especially for extended periods(10 weeks), then there is absolutely no guarrantee a full recovery is possible. Not saying it cant happen, but why make statements to guarantee a full recovery?

[Bonaparte]

We can agree on the last part, but there is much more evidence to prove a supression than not. In fact, a suppression is almost a guarantee with Tbol, as it is a derivitive of Dbol, which causes major supression, if not total shutdown. And since a supression is a fact of this, how can you prove a rebound? It is an impossibility. If a person is shutdown, especially for extended periods(10 weeks), then there is absolutely no guarrantee a full recovery is possible. Not saying it cant happen, but why make statements to guarantee a full recovery?

Same goes for injecting test, only the shutdown there will be faster and a sure thing.
And Dbol itself is not that suppressive. It is mainly the methylestradiol that is disruptive of the HPTA.
There are studies out there with zero patients experiencing full suppression after 6 weeks of high dosed Dbol (and that's without an AI).
My main reason for using a decent dose of test alongside orals is that the stronger ones make me lethargic as hell, and a good dose of test helps tremendously with this.

[Capebuffalo]

How do you know? Do you have any evidence to support this theory? I just dont see how you can assure someone this. Pretty bold.

^^^This.
Look using absolutes like I assure you you will be fine is not wise.
There is no guarantee with anything. Young users don't need smoke blown up their ass. Their is risk with anything you put in your body. Please choose your words more accordingly if you continue with your advise. Please.