T3 while on Tren for thyroid support!?!

[anahny]

I've never ran t3 while on tren. But i've read and heard that since tren shuts down your thyroid, prolactin builds up more since your thyroid suppresses the prolactin. Now their saying take t3 @ 25-50mcg to help counteract that. Will takin t3 at those low doses help without sacrificing gains or is it just a bunch of bull??

[Lunk1]

I dont rec. the use of T3 at all. I know many use it and swear by it but I would much rather risk my HPTA through AAS use than mess up my thyroid. I don't be lieve tren will cause full shutdown of thyroid function and everyone I have seen use tren has had their thyroid test come back fine after cycle.

I'm a firm believer that if you keep your E2 controled you will not have any PRL issues to worry about!

[anahny]

I dont rec. the use of T3 at all. I know many use it and swear by it but I would much rather risk my HPTA through AAS use than mess up my thyroid. I don't be lieve tren will cause full shutdown of thyroid function and everyone I have seen use tren has had their thyroid test come back fine after cycle.

I'm a firm believer that if you keep your E2 controled you will not have any PRL issues to worry about!

I was thinking the same thing but wanted to confirm it. What you said was the main reason I stopped using a long time ago.

[Lunk1]

I was thinking the same thing but wanted to confirm it. What you said was the main reason I stopped using a long time ago.

Give Atominis Tren thread a good read. There are some posts about trens affect on the thyroid that he responded to in the thread

[anahny]

Give Atominis Tren thread a good read. There are some posts about trens affect on the thyroid that he responded to in the thread

OK thanks. I'm going to scroll through the thread.

[bigpapabuff]

Yeah Im not sold on the whole tren/t3 thing.

[Perseverance1]

I dont rec. the use of T3 at all. I know many use it and swear by it but I would much rather risk my HPTA through AAS use than mess up my thyroid. I don't be lieve tren will cause full shutdown of thyroid function and everyone I have seen use tren has had their thyroid test come back fine after cycle.

I'm a firm believer that if you keep your E2 controled you will not have any PRL issues to worry about!

Though I understand what you're saying regarding the risks...Which is more inconvenient, a 125mg shot every week for the rest of your life, or having to take a little 25mcg pill every day? Maybe I'm speaking in ignorance but it would seem like killing your thyroid from T3 use would be a simple "fix"...

[XxAndreaxX]

yeah me to, i bought some t3 just in case, but is t3 so dangerous??? what could happen? i only know as side, that it is strongly catabolic, but should recover very fast after discontinue. any thoughts??

[songdog]

T3 isnt going to mess you up.That is only a rumor started by people who dont know wat they are talking about.Read the profile section.They will explain how that rumor started.

[Perseverance1]

yeah me to, i bought some t3 just in case, but is t3 so dangerous??? what could happen? i only know as side, that it is strongly catabolic, but should recover very fast after discontinue. any thoughts??

There are a couple of good T3 threads on this site if you do a search, but to my (limited) knowledge the worst T3 could do to you is shutdown your thyroid for good (bye bye metabolism). I think your body naturally produces something like 25mcg of T3 normally each day....so it stands to reason that if your thyroid did stay shut down you could just take 25mcg of T3 every day for the rest of your life.

Keep in mind I am not anywhere close to an expert on T3, and the information I am providing is partially from threads I have read on this site, and partially from pure speculation. I'm sure a little research on google could help answer your question though.

[anahny]

T3 isnt going to mess you up.That is only a rumor started by people who dont know wat they are talking about.Read the profile section.They will explain how that rumor started.

I've read things stating that after t3 use is stopped, your normal thyroid function will eventually recover in a matter of weeks. Now I'm referring to small doses so help maintain normal function of the thyroid while on tren. I was thinking of dosing 50mcg eod. Songdog in your opinion, do you think this will help while on cycle?

[austinite]

I've done it with no issues. T3 works. For me at least.

[anahny]

I've done it with no issues. T3 works. For me at least.

What was your dosing at?

[austinite]

What was your dosing at?

125mcg

[anahny]

125mcg

Wow. I think I'm going to try just 50mcg ed

[austinite]

Wow. I think I'm going to try just 50mcg ed

That's double what you produce naturally and makes for a good start.

[Lunk1]

T3 isnt going to mess you up.That is only a rumor started by people who dont know wat they are talking about.Read the profile section.They will explain how that rumor started.

It's been documented that high FT3 levels from Thyroid meds such as T3 (cytomel) can lead to cardiac arythmia as well as a number of vitamin and mineral dificiencies that can be linked to osteoporosis.

I would call that messing you up? Not to say that any and all of the things we do can't but is there enough added advantage of taking high doses of thyroid meds to make it worth the risks?

What are you looking for...a few pounds of weight loss. Eat less and run more!

[austinite]

Yes. Anything you take could cause deficiencies. Testosterone causes deficiencies. That's why you supplement.

I think what songdog is saying is that if you use it properly it will be successful.

It's just like EFA's. everyone is suddenly reading articles about how ineffective they really are. Of course they all fail to explain how to supplement properly.

[Lunk1]

Yes. Anything you take could cause deficiencies. Testosterone causes deficiencies. That's why you supplement.

I think what songdog is saying is that if you use it properly it will be successful.

It's just like EFA's. everyone is suddenly reading articles about how ineffective they really are. Of course they all fail to explain how to supplement properly.

I can say I have tried Clen but stayed away from the T3 or T4 meds...whats would you estimate your added fat loss is due to the drug alone? Is it significant enough to risk cardiac problems at doses that are 3X or more the prescribed amounts?

[XxAndreaxX]

I have efedrine at home and T3... of the 2 what's more dangerous??? Efedrine revs you up like mad, many of my friends went to the hospital due to efedrine. T3 shouldn't rev you up, you burn and burn and burn until you stop... but whats next? Is there any PCT to do?? anyways i'll read the thread. Someone says, DNP is absurdly the safest and best fat burner. it doesn't rev your pressure up like clen or ECA, it doesn't shutdown, it only elevates your temp... if you don't die, you shouldn't have any Post issues, isn't it?

[anahny]

I have efedrine at home and T3... of the 2 what's more dangerous??? Efedrine revs you up like mad, many of my friends went to the hospital due to efedrine. T3 shouldn't rev you up, you burn and burn and burn until you stop... but whats next? Is there any PCT to do?? anyways i'll read the thread. Someone says, DNP is absurdly the safest and best fat burner. it doesn't rev your pressure up like clen or ECA, it doesn't shutdown, it only elevates your temp... if you don't die, you shouldn't have any Post issues, isn't it?

DNP in my opinion is the most dangerous fat burner out there. I think clen is also more dangerous than t3 since t3 doesn't effect your heart. The only thing I see with t3 is muscle loss which some people rate starts a over. 150mcg

[austinite]

I can say I have tried Clen but stayed away from the T3 or T4 meds...whats would you estimate your added fat loss is due to the drug alone? Is it significant enough to risk cardiac problems at doses that are 3X or more the prescribed amounts?

Well. I am no fan of Clem. But as for t3, everyone is different. For me, I lose more fat on t3 than anything else. Even when diet isn't on point. Couldn't give you an exact number yet.

[songdog]

It's been documented that high FT3 levels from Thyroid meds such as T3 (cytomel) can lead to cardiac arythmia as well as a number of vitamin and mineral dificiencies that can be linked to osteoporosis.

I would call that messing you up? Not to say that any and all of the things we do can't but is there enough added advantage of taking high doses of thyroid meds to make it worth the risks?

What are you looking for...a few pounds of weight loss. Eat less and run more!

Sorry Bro wasnt trying to say you were wrong.I just never read anything bad on it.And before I ran it I researched for a while.Looks like I missed something.

[Lunk1]

Sorry Bro wasnt trying to say you were wrong.I just never read anything bad on it.And before I ran it I researched for a while.Looks like I missed something.

Honestly this thread sent me into research mode myself. I have not been able to find anything to support my earlier belief that permenent thyroid damage can occur from use. On the contrary everything I have found said that the thyroid will bounce back after using T3 even for extended amounts of time.

While digging is when I learned of the cardiac risks especially when running higher BB type doses for fat loss purposes. Osteoporosis hasn't been linked directly to the use of T3 but more to the vitamin and mineral deficiencies caused by T3 use. Like Austin pointed out it would be important to supplement during use. I believe Magnesium and something els...I can't recall!

[Lunk1]

Well. I am no fan of Clem. But as for t3, everyone is different. For me, I lose more fat on t3 than anything else. Even when diet isn't on point. Couldn't give you an exact number yet.

Is this your first run with T3 then??

[austinite]

Is this your first run with T3 then??

No. But it's the first Time I track progress with Bodpod assessments.

[Lunk1]

No. But it's the first Time I track progress with Bodpod assessments.

Def. curious..although with your cycle it will be too hard to determine the true effect of the T3 alone. I am curious of someones tracked results of just T3 without anything else. May have to start thread searching!

[austinite]

Def. curious..although with your cycle it will be too hard to determine the true effect of the T3 alone. I am curious of someones tracked results of just T3 without anything else. May have to start thread searching!

Won't be hard at all. I know exactly what the other compounds are doing.

I would hate to see someone track t3 alone. LBM would decrease as well.

[Lunk1]

Won't be hard at all. I know exactly what the other compounds are doing.

I would hate to see someone track t3 alone. LBM would decrease as well.

Isnt that dose dependent??