Quote Originally Posted by JTathlete View Post
What's wrong with continuing to cycle tren? Once you find a compound that you like, you don't *need* to change it for future cycles.
What else is there to screw up? (aside from the obvious liver issues from orals, which I am trying to avoid anyway)

Throwing in 50mg tren ace EoD for 8 weeks IS keeping it simple...is it not? I'm prepared for the sides; If I feel like I can't handle them, I will discontinue use.
I'm much more interested in the fat loss properties and strength gains from tren than the actual muscle gain offered by tren/deca.
I am not going for that 'monster' look. In my profession, that would put me out of work.


Test is not really a reasonable option...or ANY aromatizing compound for that matter. The heartburn I get from AI's makes life unbearable. I have an issue with the valve between my esophagus and stomach which probably aggrivates the typical heartburn AI's cause.
Keep in mind that tren is NOT a diet pill! One can truelly cut or bulk on any compound. PPL think Deca is a bulk only compound but reality is that with proper nutrition you can cut just as well on Deca as Tren.

The only TRUE advantage to Tren is that it is indeed the strongest AA and will give you the best ban for the buck in terms of strength gains...but in reality strength gains = muscle gains which means some bulking up! If your goal is to lose fat and you want to avoid orals and any DHT compounds then you have other choices!

In reality since you are already on TRT you do not need any AAS to "cut". Diet and cardio dictate this and you are already helping avoid muscle wasting while operating on a calorie defeciant diet due to your TRT dose.

If extra muscle is your goal you will need to up your calorie intake to achieve and more importantly sustain added growth! A low dose of Deca will do all you need and you avoid things like night sweats, added aggression, insomnia (this really sucks), higher BP issues and so on!

The other issue with Tren (although I'm sure you don't want to hear it) is your age. The reality is that MOST ppl of younger age cannot handle the mind fuk that alot of tren users experience. Lucid dreams and thoughts about women cheating and ppl around you being against you. Tren can really screw with some ppls minds in partbecause of the insomnia as well. Most young pplsimply are not mature enough to seperate tren thoughts from reality! I know this is the part where you tell me your different andmore mature than most but....maturity often comes from experience. This is why I am pushing a more mild 19nor. So that you can gain the experience that will give you a better ability to deal with Tren sides in a more mature manner when the time comes!