Ideas for next contest/competition...

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Here's an idea- TRUE body fat. DXA Scan required for proof before and after. Getting tired of seeing all these 8% claims from guys that have done one cycle, lol.

I don't tell tales... if I did I'd say I was at 4-6% BF like everyone else on the forum with more than 1000 posts.

ok dan which one is it 4-6 or 8 ?????? LOL...

[Lunk1]

ok dan which one is it 4-6 or 8 ?????? LOL...

I'm close if you add those numbers together lol

[--->>405<<---]

I'm close if you add those numbers together lol

LOL.. hows the diet/cardio/fasting going????

[Lunk1]

LOL.. hows the diet/cardio/fasting going????

Uggggg! I will leave it at that! Time to start over!!!!!!

[dan991]

I'm close if you add those numbers together lol

THANK YOU... someone is at least realistic.... and I am with you on those numbers. How the fvck a cycle of Test C and Tren gives people this magical "I'm 7%" attitude is beyond me. I'm still waiting to find someone other than me that knows what hydrochlorothyizide is...... uh duh.

[dan991]

ok dan which one is it 4-6 or 8 ?????? LOL...

Anyone under 10 is full of shit! These are the same people that "lose" fat. YOU CANNOT LOSE FAT WITHOUT SURGERY! You can only shrink fat cells. On cycle- even worse cause you're replacing fat with water!. Do some research... once you have fat- you DO NOT LOSE IT... it shrinks. People being at 8% is a myth for most. You can only be 8% if you've never had more than 8%. IF 99% of the members on this forum, both on and off cycle went and did a full body scan.... they'd be sadly disappointed to find out they are hovering over 15%. This myth of seeing abs has got to get squashed. "I see abs- therefore I'm 7%" is absolute bullshit. I have abs- I'm near 20%!!!!

[Capebuffalo]

Anyone under 10 is full of shit! These are the same people that "lose" fat. YOU CANNOT LOSE FAT WITHOUT SURGERY! You can only shrink fat cells. On cycle- even worse cause you're replacing fat with water!. Do some research... once you have fat- you DO NOT LOSE IT... it shrinks. People being at 8% is a myth for most. You can only be 8% if you've never had more than 8%. IF 99% of the members on this forum, both on and off cycle went and did a full body scan.... they'd be sadly disappointed to find out they are hovering over 15%. This myth of seeing abs has got to get squashed. "I see abs- therefore I'm 7%" is absolute bullshit. I have abs- I'm near 20%!!!!

Hey numb nuts. Do you like the sound of your own voice. Wait that can't be it your typing.
What do you think my bf% is here? Shut up already

[dan991]

Hey numb nuts. Do you like the sound of your own voice. Wait that can't be it your typing.
What do you think my bf% is here? Shut up already

No- I'm tired of dudes coming on here claiming to be 5' "something" and weighing in at 200 lbs @ 7-8% body fat after some creatine, chicken, a muscle milk, some Anavar tabs, and 6 months in the gym....


Best guess: TOTAL body fat around 6-8ish %. That would include all adipose tissue.

However... I HIGHLY doubt you maintain that year round and got therefrom a single cycle of whatever......

[--->>405<<---]

Anyone under 10 is full of shit! These are the same people that "lose" fat. YOU CANNOT LOSE FAT WITHOUT SURGERY! You can only shrink fat cells. On cycle- even worse cause you're replacing fat with water!. Do some research... once you have fat- you DO NOT LOSE IT... it shrinks. People being at 8% is a myth for most. You can only be 8% if you've never had more than 8%. IF 99% of the members on this forum, both on and off cycle went and did a full body scan.... they'd be sadly disappointed to find out they are hovering over 15%. This myth of seeing abs has got to get squashed. "I see abs- therefore I'm 7%" is absolute bullshit. I have abs- I'm near 20%!!!!

i guess im full of shit then dan? or was the BOD POD wrong and youre right! and my abs are not very visible there either..

[dan991]

i guess im full of shit then dan? or was the BOD POD wrong and youre right! and my abs are not very visible there either..

I'm not talking about seasoned vets in that statement... geez.. explained it 3 times now. But.. yea; BOD POD is wrong. It can't count all adipose tissue......

[--->>405<<---]

I'm not talking about seasoned vets in that statement... geez.. explained it 3 times now. But.. yea; BOD POD is wrong. It can't count all adipose tissue......

hmm.. i cant comment on this because i simply do not know but would like an elaboration! from my understanding the bod pod does count total body fat including (but not limited to) essential fat between organs and ribs and all that good stuff!

[dan991]

hmm.. i cant comment on this because i simply do not know but would like an elaboration! from my understanding the bod pod does count total body fat including (but not limited to) essential fat between organs and ribs and all that good stuff!

There is adipose tissue (white or brown fat cells) in bone, in between muscle fibers, etc. Furthermore- once you have a fat cell; you always have it. It doesn't burn off; it shrinks. BOD POD uses air displacement to calculate body mass; how does air displacement discover how much of your bone marrow has fat? How does it calculate fat cells between muscle fibers?

As I stated- 10%. You're 9% is probably accurate EXCLUDING fat in bone marrow and such; which then puts you probably at 10% at least depending on your skeletal structure.

[Lunk1]

I'm not talking about seasoned vets in that statement... geez.. explained it 3 times now. But.. yea; BOD POD is wrong. It can't count all adipose tissue......

At the end of the day...does it matter what BF% I or some method says I am? It's about how I look naked....who gives a shyt if some measuring technique says 7% or 12%. If you use the same methos each time then you can at least track improvement.

[dan991]

At the end of the day...does it matter what BF% I or some method says I am? It's about how I look naked....who gives a shyt if some measuring technique says 7% or 12%. If you use the same methos each time then you can at least track improvement.

Because everytime you ask someone to post stats when they are posting cycle questions: They are 5'2" 220 lbs with 7% body fat... I don't know how you look naked; post a pic.

[Lunk1]

Because everytime you ask someone to post stats when they are posting cycle questions: They are 5'2" 220 lbs with 7% body fat... I don't know how you look naked; post a pic.

Then you would be tempted to buy me an $800 coat and I wouldn't feel right about it

Dude...get out of the lounge and spend a solid week in Q&A fielding questions...then bitch to me about ppl saying stupid shyt! Most ppl guess and have no clue. I figure I'm somewhere in the 20% neighborhood but I might be way off! Frankly I don't care! I know what my goal is and it's not based on a BF% number. Again...405 loves the bod pod. How true the measurment is, who knows. But it gives him a scale to use. He can see what kind of improvements he is making!

Honestly Dan, you have been lementing over this same subject for days and I am not sure why it is soooo friggin important to you!

[--->>405<<---]

At the end of the day...does it matter what BF% I or some method says I am? It's about how I look naked....who gives a shyt if some measuring technique says 7% or 12%. If you use the same methos each time then you can at least track improvement.

i agree but a small part of me really cares what that damn machine says! lol..

[Lunk1]

i agree but a small part of me really cares what that damn machine says! lol..

That's your OCD you freak!

[dan991]

AND... after spending 16+ years in the gym busting my ass; I'll be damned if I'm gonna keep my mouth shut when some 20 year old dude the same height as me comes in claiming to be 15+ pounds more than me at 8% body fat off one cycle..... I'm gonna call bullshit every time....

[dan991]

i guess im full of shit then dan?

Yes- your BodPod shows 9.9% body fat.

How accurate is it? If each test is performed correctly according to the recommended guidelines, there is a ± 3% error. According to McCrory, et al.*, the Bod pod has a validity of r = .93 using hydrostatic weighing as the criterion measure. * Medicine and Science in Sports and Exercise, 27(12): 1686-1691, 1995.

HOWEVER.... it also does not calculate bone mineral density therefore you can easily be 0.1% over by the fat in bone marrow....

Dan for the win...

[S&S_ShovelHead]

Yes- your BodPod shows 9.9% body fat.

How accurate is it? If each test is performed correctly according to the recommended guidelines, there is a ± 3% error. According to McCrory, et al.*, the Bod pod has a validity of r = .93 using hydrostatic weighing as the criterion measure. * Medicine and Science in Sports and Exercise, 27(12): 1686-1691, 1995.

HOWEVER.... it also does not calculate bone mineral density therefore you can easily be 0.1% over by the fat in bone marrow....

Dan for the win...

You need to relax and drop it. A few bf% isn't really going to change the advice given to someone. What would you reccomend someone do differently if they are 14% bf instead of 12.

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You need to relax and drop it. A few bf% isn't really going to change the advice given to someone. What would you reccomend someone do differently if they are 14% bf instead of 12.

tell em shovel head!

of course it could go the other way and i could be a really fat looking 6.9%bf too!

[dan991]

of course it could go the other way and i could be a really fat looking 6.9%bf too!

That's possible but only because you have more than 1,000 posts....

[dan991]

You need to relax and drop it. A few bf% isn't really going to change the advice given to someone. What would you reccomend someone do differently if they are 14% bf instead of 12.

Agreed.... I'm just busting balls with details.... but the killer is always in the details......

[big_ron]

Anyone under 10 is full of shit! These are the same people that "lose" fat. YOU CANNOT LOSE FAT WITHOUT SURGERY! You can only shrink fat cells. On cycle- even worse cause you're replacing fat with water!. Do some research... once you have fat- you DO NOT LOSE IT... it shrinks. People being at 8% is a myth for most. You can only be 8% if you've never had more than 8%. IF 99% of the members on this forum, both on and off cycle went and did a full body scan.... they'd be sadly disappointed to find out they are hovering over 15%. This myth of seeing abs has got to get squashed. "I see abs- therefore I'm 7%" is absolute bullshit. I have abs- I'm near 20%!!!!

What the hell kind of statement is that? i hope ive just read it wrong. I can easy say im 7-8% right now...

[dan991]

What the hell kind of statement is that? i hope ive just read it wrong. I can easy say im 7-8% right now...

Its an accurate statement. Once your body increases in fat cell count; you always keep those fat cells. If you were 35% body fat at any point in your life; you still have the same cell count. When you "burn fat" essentially what you are doing is shrinking the fat cells but they don't disappear. When running certain anabolics.... those same fat cells start to retain water instead of fat.

You're 7 or 8%? Post pics- I call bullshit.

[big_ron]

Its an accurate statement. Once your body increases in fat cell count; you always keep those fat cells. If you were 35% body fat at any point in your life; you still have the same cell count. When you "burn fat" essentially what you are doing is shrinking the fat cells but they don't disappear. When running certain anabolics.... those same fat cells start to retain water instead of fat.

You're 7 or 8%? Post pics- I call bullshit.

I agree on fat cells shrinking etc. but the cell count and % of body fat of your overall body compesition are two different things.

I have no reason to say im 7-8% bf when im not, so your opinion does not bother me.