our president

[bcaasdirty]

^^its worse on the state level (New York). If Cuomo gets his way the only 'legal' guns left will be muzzle loaders and single shots.

[gixxerboy1]

^^its worse on the state level (New York). If Cuomo gets his way the only 'legal' guns left will be muzzle loaders and single shots.

again, yes he is putting forward strict laws but lets not exaggerate. and OMG if it was true. What would happen, you wouldnt be able to work, feed your family, You would loose your house and robbers and rapist would over run your town

[bcaasdirty]

again, yes he is putting forward strict laws but lets not exaggerate. and OMG if it was true. What would happen, you wouldnt be able to work, feed your family, You would loose your house and robbers and rapist would over run your town

Unfortunately, I wish I was exaggerating with what is being proposed in my backwards state. Even pump action shotguns would be deemed illegal. I don't think (knocking on wood/keeping my fingers crosses) all that is being proposed will pass though. But crazier things have happened I guess.

Part of the proposed "new" gun laws would be to turn all non-legal firearms over to LE by 2015 with no compensation (or have gun welded shut), or automatically become a class B felon

[gixxerboy1]

Unfortunately, I wish I was exaggerating with what is being proposed in my backwards state. Even pump action shotguns would be deemed illegal. I don't think (knocking on wood/keeping my fingers crosses) all that is being proposed will pass though. But crazier things have happened I guess.

Part of the proposed "new" gun laws would be to turn all non-legal firearms over to LE by 2015 with no compensation (or have gun welded shut), or automatically become a class B felon

This is what they are proposing. Nothing like you are claiming

New York's top prosecutors are proposing new state laws they say will help curb gun crimes across the state.
In letters to the governor and legislative leaders, the District Attorneys Association advocates amending mental health laws, imposing stiffer penalties for gun crimes, banning all high-capacity magazines and restricting large quantity sales of firearms and ammunition.
The association, which includes all of the 62 counties' chief prosecutors, says criminal activity becomes exponentially more volatile when guns are present.

The group backs imposing a mandatory consecutive five-year sentence when a person commits a violent felony or drug crime while possessing a gun, require periodic renewals of handgun permits in every county and expressly authorize courts to remove guns and revoke licenses of people found mentally incapacitated.

[kelkel]

banning all high-capacity magazines Need that one defined more...


criminal activity becomes exponentially more volatile when guns are present. Obviously a brain surgeon wrote that part.

I agree with the rest....

[gixxerboy1]

above....

the governor in an interview said clips over 9. (responding to the first bold)

dont know how to respond to the second part

i dont think they should ban guns, but there should be some type of limits, back ground checks, reasonable stuff. But i guess whats reasonable to one isnt to another

[Sgt. Hartman]

there should be some type of limits, back ground checks, reasonable stuff. But i guess whats reasonable to one isnt to another

I agree with that too and am fine with Biden and the task force coming up with new recommendations (except they're currently investigating the role video games have in violent crime??).

But passing an unconstitutional executive order that wouldn't have to go through congress is horse shlt. Maybe it won't happen and is just more fear mongering but I can understand why gun advocates would be pissed right the fvck off about it.

And I agree with 405 I'm sooo sick of hearing about it. The gd media sensationalizes everything and reports half truths and exaggerations just to incite both sides.

[bcaasdirty]

This is what they are proposing. Nothing like you are claiming

New York's top prosecutors are proposing new state laws they say will help curb gun crimes across the state.
In letters to the governor and legislative leaders, the District Attorneys Association advocates amending mental health laws, imposing stiffer penalties for gun crimes, banning all high-capacity magazines and restricting large quantity sales of firearms and ammunition.
The association, which includes all of the 62 counties' chief prosecutors, says criminal activity becomes exponentially more volatile when guns are present.

The group backs imposing a mandatory consecutive five-year sentence when a person commits a violent felony or drug crime while possessing a gun, require periodic renewals of handgun permits in every county and expressly authorize courts to remove guns and revoke licenses of people found mentally incapacitated.

I spoke w/ a friend whom has read Cuomo's new Assault Weapon Ban bill and its much more than whats posted above (yea yea I know what you're thinking, why should I believe this guy and his 'friend'? I don't have a good reason and you don't have to, I'm just passing along information that was given to me. I, like others, hopes it turns out different :

-Utilizing the same assault weapon 'guidelines' as were drawn up in '94 (bayonet mount, grenade launder, telescoping stock, pistol grip, flash suppressor) any gun that has one of the aforementioned characteristics and can accept a detachable magazine will be classified as an assault weapon and deemed illegal (and ultimately meets demise I mentioned earlier)

-Requirement of microstamping all ammo (approx 4x increase in price of ammo)

-No grandfathering in of previous 'legal' firearms and clips--confiscation is an 'option'