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    Noted. 10-12 weeks for my test e. When front loading can you give me an example for it> (600mg for the first 2 weeks then drop down to 500mg for the rest of the duration?) something like this? Other option is to use Test P. however I hear you need to pin every day. Not to sure how valid that is though...

    Lastly, from my understanding P with the low ester is more fast acting and fast to leave your system. Then Test e, high ester, slow acting lasts longer in the system. Is this correct and which would provoke more side effects.??

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    Quote Originally Posted by backcountryrider View Post
    Lastly, from my understanding P with the low ester is more fast acting and fast to leave your system. Then Test e, high ester, slow acting lasts longer in the system. Is this correct and which would provoke more side effects.??
    Test P has a biological half-life of 1.5 days; whereas, Test E has a biological half-life of 4-6 days (depending on individual's metabolic response).

    Thus, Test P enters and exits your system faster; whereas, it takes Test E significantly longer to enter and exit your system.

    It wouldn't be correct to say one would prove more side effects than the other, since it ultimately boils down to how your metabolism responds to the given compound; however, if any sides were to occur, they will occur much quicker with Test P than Test E.

    Lastly, sides are more manageable with short esters because you can adjust your dose and almost immediately attain results by doing so, which is never the case with long esters. Another advantage of short esters is the very short 3 day waiting phase to start PCT, which can go all the way up to 3 weeks with long esters such as Sustanon and/or Test Decanoate.

    I prefer short esters only at this point, shorter cycles = less strain on my body and results are quickly delivered.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Turkish Juicer View Post
    Test P has a biological half-life of 1.5 days; whereas, Test E has a biological half-life of 4-6 days (depending on individual's metabolic response).

    Thus, Test P enters and exits your system faster; whereas, it takes Test E significantly longer to enter and exit your system.

    It wouldn't be correct to say one would prove more side effects than the other, since it ultimately boils down to how your metabolism responds to the given compound; however, if any sides were to occur, they will occur much quicker with Test P than Test E.

    Lastly, sides are more manageable with short esters because you can adjust your dose and almost immediately attain results by doing so, which is never the case with long esters. Another advantage of short esters is the very short 3 day waiting phase to start PCT, which can go all the way up to 3 weeks with long esters such as Sustanon and/or Test Decanoate.

    I prefer short esters only at this point, shorter cycles = less strain on my body and results are quickly delivered.
    I think you put it right , it makes cense to me as per your last line. I just need to research more now of PCT. I know there is plenty of info on it already posted but I do have one more question now that I have attention of a knowledgable member. If in theory, PCT was NOT taken, your natural hormone balance does eventually correct itself back to normal right? How bad really is dealing with it and for how long until your normal again?

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    Quote Originally Posted by backcountryrider View Post
    If in theory, PCT was NOT taken, your natural hormone balance does eventually correct itself back to normal right? How bad really is dealing with it and for how long until your normal again?
    No one with a working brain can possibly guarantee you that your HPTA will eventually correct itself back to normal. There are, in fact, many reported cases where HPTA recovery hasn't at all occurred post-cycle when left alone. Although, these cases have often to do with those who either cycled at a very young age or pro-BBs who have been on heavy doses of multiple compounds for extended periods of time.

    At any rate, the answer to your question is a big NO. In theory, HPTA may not recover itself and/or even if recovery occurs, pre-cycle stats regarding total and free Testosterone levels may never be achieved again. As for your question ''how long would normalization take'', this will vary amongst individuals, as there is no stone written elements for this.

    Here is my question: why am I getting the feeling that you want to skip PCT???

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    Quote Originally Posted by Turkish Juicer View Post
    No one with a working brain can possibly guarantee you that your HPTA will eventually correct itself back to normal. There are, in fact, many reported cases where HPTA recovery hasn't at all occurred post-cycle when left alone. Although, these cases have often to do with those who either cycled at a very young age or pro-BBs who have been on heavy doses of multiple compounds for extended periods of time.

    At any rate, the answer to your question is a big NO. In theory, HPTA may not recover itself and/or even if recovery occurs, pre-cycle stats regarding total and free Testosterone levels may never be achieved again. As for your question ''how long would normalization take'', this will vary amongst individuals, as there is no stone written elements for this.

    Here is my question: why am I getting the feeling that you want to skip PCT???
    If PCT is that important then it's even more important to know what happens if you skip it. (or skip it by not doing it right, wrong dose, wrong timing, wrong stuff, whatever.)

    I was also not saying guarantee this or guarantee that, i know everything in life really is nothing set in stone: What I mean, what GENERALLY happens in MOST cases after a cycle if PCT is missed? Yes, I understand there has been SOME cases where natural hormone production has been destroyed to mess up their lives forever.

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