Tren e and test syp stack help!

[2fat2function]

At 21, all the issues I've previously stated go pale in comparison to the potential risk of permanently damaging your endocrine system. Have you even begun to research the possible effects of steroids on a still developing endocrine system? Even a steroid as mild as anavar can case permanent and very tangible life long issues if used at such a young age, to use tren is frankly insane.

Do you not see how ridiculous it is to ask if it's a good idea to take these powerful hormones if you're determined to do them regardless?

No still doing the research I meet with my dr for testing and everything on Monday . And you are right I am not willing to put anything with out research into my body . That is why I am asking for your opinion id rather learn from people that have experience dealing with it and are knowledgeable on the topic like you have proven to be.

[Bigshotvictoria]

No still doing the research I meet with my dr for testing and everything on Monday . And you are right I am not willing to put anything with out research into my body . That is why I am asking for your opinion id rather learn from people that have experience dealing with it and are knowledgeable on the topic like you have proven to be.

Ha! Me, Knowledgeable! There are many people here far more knowledgeable than me, but thanks

Lets just take a step back here, what is your biggest goal?

[2fat2function]

Ha! Me, Knowledgeable! There are many people here far more knowledgeable than me, but thanks

Lets just take a step back here, what is your biggest goal?

My over all 3 - 5 year goal is to look like mariusz pudzianowski man is a monster !

[Bigshotvictoria]

My over all 3 - 5 year goal is to look like mariusz pudzianowski man is a monster !

Ok, lets talk reality. That, although a very admirable goal, is quite far away. You should start setting some short and mid term goals. You also have a lot of research to do about diet, because if you cannot perfect your diet you could end up taking all the steroids in the world and end up looking like Roseanne Barr, not Mariusz!!!!! Your first goal should be to get your body fat down, personally I would get down to 12% (or lower) as it doesn't matter how much muscle you build, if you can't cut you'll never have the look you want. THIS WILL BE HARD!!!!!! But if you can do it you clearly have have the discipline to keep going. If at 12% (or lower) you feel you need more muscle mass to get the look you want, then start trying to add lean mass. At a lower body fat you can afford to add some fat to build muscle, but for now it's best to cut. If you want to learn about steroids, please read all the stickies, and you'll find that now is about as far from when you want to do them as you can get.

So, that was a mouthful. Trust me, you're already a big boy, and you'll look pretty damn good just cutting down to show the muscle you already have!!!!!
So get the hell off of this thread, and get into the nutrition forum, because the truth is ONLY DIET will let you hit your goals.

[2fat2function]

Ok, lets talk reality. That, although a very admirable goal, is quite far away. You should start setting some short and mid term goals. You also have a lot of research to do about diet, because if you cannot perfect your diet you could end up taking all the steroids in the world and end up looking like Roseanne Barr, not Mariusz!!!!! Your first goal should be to get your body fat down, personally I would get down to 12% (or lower) as it doesn't matter how much muscle you build, if you can't cut you'll never have the look you want. THIS WILL BE HARD!!!!!! But if you can do it you clearly have have the discipline to keep going. If at 12% (or lower) you feel you need more muscle mass to get the look you want, then start trying to add lean mass. At a lower body fat you can afford to add some fat to build muscle, but for now it's best to cut. If you want to learn about steroids, please read all the stickies, and you'll find that now is about as far from when you want to do them as you can get.

So, that was a mouthful. Trust me, you're already a big boy, and you'll look pretty damn good just cutting down to show the muscle you already have!!!!!
So get the hell off of this thread, and get into the nutrition forum, because the truth is ONLY DIET will let you hit your goals.

Okay thanks for the info!! Oh one more thing should I Eca while dieting or just straight natty

[Bigshotvictoria]

Okay thanks for the info!! Oh one more thing should I Eca while dieting or just straight natty

I'm naturally very thin, so putting on muscle has always been my main goal. As far as cutting goes, I don't really need anything like this so my knowledge is less than basic. AS I UNDERSTAND IT, and others will be able to elaborate far more, that stack can be used safely and quite effectively. I've read a few post recently from other members that they do not use ASA, just the ephedra and caffein, although I'm not sure of the reason why. This is a question best asked of the diet guys on here, but as I have heard many respected members saying it's a fantastic stack. Just remember, ECA and everything else of their type can only aid with the right diet, without the right diet your just wasting your time and your health.

Off the top off my head 405 and gbrice and a couple of others really know their diet stuff. 405 has before and after pics that will really help you understand the importance of diet.

Good luck, and I hope to see you around here!!!

[2fat2function]

I'm naturally very thin, so putting on muscle has always been my main goal. As far as cutting goes, I don't really need anything like this so my knowledge is less than basic. AS I UNDERSTAND IT, and others will be able to elaborate far more, that stack can be used safely and quite effectively. I've read a few post recently from other members that they do not use ASA, just the ephedra and caffein, although I'm not sure of the reason why. This is a question best asked of the diet guys on here, but as I have heard many respected members saying it's a fantastic stack. Just remember, ECA and everything else of their type can only aid with the right diet, without the right diet your just wasting your time and your health.

Off the top off my head 405 and gbrice and a couple of others really know their diet stuff. 405 has before and after pics that will really help you understand the importance of diet.

Good luck, and I hope to see you around here!!!

Thanks bro !

[2fat2function]

I'm naturally very thin, so putting on muscle has always been my main goal. As far as cutting goes, I don't really need anything like this so my knowledge is less than basic. AS I UNDERSTAND IT, and others will be able to elaborate far more, that stack can be used safely and quite effectively. I've read a few post recently from other members that they do not use ASA, just the ephedra and caffein, although I'm not sure of the reason why. This is a question best asked of the diet guys on here, but as I have heard many respected members saying it's a fantastic stack. Just remember, ECA and everything else of their type can only aid with the right diet, without the right diet your just wasting your time and your health.

Off the top off my head 405 and gbrice and a couple of others really know their diet stuff. 405 has before and after pics that will really help you understand the importance of diet.

Good luck, and I hope to see you around here!!!

And I have always been a big boy I was 10.11 pounds and 22 inches tall when born and building muscle and strength generally come easy it's diet aspect lol