Clen or oxy elite?

[doingwork12]

i have a post in the nutrition section labeled..."please check my diet" sorry im not sure how to link it....its on the first page...

people say there garbage but like i said they have worked and on less of a diet......

im bought to scoop some oxy elite and drop the clen...... Your opinion? or shit maybe take both lol

i mean come on ....three weeks and 4 lbs... thats a joke... something is wrong....

[bcaasdirty]

i have a post in the nutrition section labeled..."please check my diet" sorry im not sure how to link it....its on the first page...

people say there garbage but like i said they have worked and on less of a diet......

im bought to scoop some oxy elite and drop the clen...... Your opinion? or shit maybe take both lol

i mean come on ....three weeks and 4 lbs... thats a joke... something is wrong....

Your diet is wrong, thats the problem. I would def suggest not taking both together, that is stim overload. Again, I'll make the point that your placing too much emphasis on supplements...they are meant to supplement not to be used as a crutch for a lacking diet/training routine. When all is 'right' 1-3 lbs/week is an acceptable amount of weight loss. I am posting my diet below, which I utilized to 'start' my current cut (6'2", 270lbs in the beginning, started 2nd week of October), I have since adjusted to a cyclical ketogenic diet intaking approx 2500-2700cals/day, and have dropped my weight down to 233 while maintaining/improving strength across the board. This diet should not be followed verbatim due to the difference in stats, but it can give you a better idea of food choices. Let me know if you have ne questions.

MEAL 1
2 whole egg-9g fat, 12g pro-140cal
5 eggwhites-20g pro-80 cal
1 cup oatmeal-5g fat, 52g carb, 10g pro-280cal
TOTAL-14g fat, 52g carb, 52g pro-500 cal

MEAL 2
9oz Boneless/Skinless Chkn-3g fat, 52g pro-250cal
1 Cup Brown Rice-3g fat, 39g carb, 5g pro-190cal
TOTAL-6g fat, 29g carb, 27g pro-440cal

MEAL 3
(2) Sunkist Packets Chunk Light Tuna-6g fat, 8g carb, 26g pro-200 cal
1/2 cup FF Cottage Cheese-6g carb, 11g pro-70cal
2 TBSP Flax Seed Oil-28g fat-238cal
TOTAL-34g fat, 14g carb, 37g pro-508cal

MEAL 4
9oz Boneless/Skinless Chkn-3g fat, 52g pro-250cal
1 Cup Brown Rice-3g fat, 39g carb, 5g pro-190cal
TOTAL-6g fat, 39g carb, 57g pro-440cal

MEAL 5
8oz 94% Lean Ground Turkey-14g fat, 2g carb, 48g pro-320 cal
1/2 cup FF Cottage Cheese-6g carb, 11gpro-70cals
TOTAL-14g fat, 8g carb, 59g pro-390cal

MEAL 6
8oz 95% Lean Ground Beef-6g fat, 36g pro-228cal
2 TBSP Flax Seed Oil-28g fat-238cal
TOTAL-34g fat, 36g pro-466cal

TOTAL-108 fat, 142g carb, 268g pro-~2800cals/day

[Tron3219]

Your diet is wrong, thats the problem. I would def suggest not taking both together, that is stim overload.

Agree with this! Putting the diet aside, taking both is actually exponentially bad for ur health. I don't remember EXACTLY, but something like clen is an a2 receptor antagonist and yohimbine(in oxy elite) is an a2 agonist. And there is an abundance of a2 receptors in ur heart and taking both would skyrocket BP and increase risk of a heart attack. Like I said I don't remember the exact details, as in if for sure it's a2 receptors and which is agonist/antagonist. It's been awhile since I read it, if u like I can try and dig it up, but either way I wouldn't do it.

-TroN-

[doingwork12]

i was kinda kidding about taking both ... but i guess im just frustrated because i expected clen to better better than an over the counter... i did take hydroxy cut the original.... definetley worked better than this..... my buddy said the otc fat burners eat at muscle and that maybe why the number on the scale dropped lower..faster then then the clen im taking today.....the thing thats the most frustrating is that when i lost a good amount of weight... my idea of eating healty and being on a diet was eating a half box of wheat thins vs eating fries.... or lots of pretzles...peanuts....lots of carbs... basically just anything that wasnt fried or greasy....i actually didnt take the clen today i was so pissed.....

[bcaasdirty]

i was kinda kidding about taking both ... but i guess im just frustrated because i expected clen to better better than an over the counter... i did take hydroxy cut the original.... definetley worked better than this..... my buddy said the otc fat burners eat at muscle and that maybe why the number on the scale dropped lower..faster then then the clen im taking today.....the thing thats the most frustrating is that when i lost a good amount of weight... my idea of eating healty and being on a diet was eating a half box of wheat thins vs eating fries.... or lots of pretzles...peanuts....lots of carbs... basically just anything that wasnt fried or greasy....i actually didnt take the clen today i was so pissed.....

I know what you mean bro...before I started the whole BB routine I had a completely skewed view on how to lose weight and what was considered healthy. I thought I could eat as much as I wanted but as long it was labeled as being healthy (by society standards) I thought that I would lose weight. Boy was I wrong. After being 'initiated' to the proper way to do things I can look back and laugh. Right now getting your diet in order is the most paramount thing you have to do in order to get the results you're looking for. I hope posting my diet helped a lil bit.