[PICS] This teen weights 250 lbs....

[gearbox]

Hormones of course....Did you really need to ask?

Listen to be honest, the whole thing about going naturally is great and dandy...It should be done for years before EVEN considering cycling....But the fact remains people at a certain height can only gain so much naturally and still stay within 5-7% NATURALLY...

Any guy 5'9" over 200 lbs in 5-7% show me a picture...It DOES NOT HAPPEN...Our bodies are not meant to put on that much size and STILL BE THAT LEAN....Show me 5'9" at 200 lbs and 23% bodyfat I can agree with that....

Sorry but it is the truth...Most are using hormones...

This a a well educated post. notice he said 5-7% at 5'9 at 200. Nice I can name about 50 guys from my gym that are 5'9-6'1 200-215 at 17%+ of course they all think they are close to 10% haha

[calstate23]

This a a well educated post. notice he said 5-7% at 5'9 at 200. Nice I can name about 50 guys from my gym that are 5'9-6'1 200-215 at 17%+ of course they all think they are close to 10% haha

And the saddest part....They're probably on hormones too...

It is really SAD and quite frankly annoys me to see someone on hormones and still looking like a big fat piece of shit....COMPLETE LAZINESS and LACK OF KNOWLEDGE...These are the people that don't even DESERVE to have hormones touch their hands...

[gearbox]

And the saddest part....They're probably on hormones too...

It is really SAD and quite frankly annoys me to see someone on hormones and still looking like a big fat piece of shit....COMPLETE LAZINESS and LACK OF KNOWLEDGE...These are the people that don't even DESERVE to have hormones touch their hands...

I use to be involved on High School football and would hear about all the "crap" kids were trying these days. Of course I get asked a few times and my answer is always- I hope you look a lot better then me when you have trained for 15 years :0

the bf% annoys me the most, besides uneducated ppl using dangerous things

[calstate23]

I use to be involved on High School football and would hear about all the "crap" kids were trying these days. Of course I get asked a few times and my answer is always- I hope you look a lot better then me when you have trained for 15 years :0

the bf% annoys me the most, besides uneducated ppl using dangerous things

What kids don't realize today...Or most people even for that matter is to reach your peak natty or at least get very close to it....For the guys that train natural and get down 6% naturally with good MUSCLE bellies and proportions will kill other guys in the long run....It is key for STRENGTH and also for overall PROPORTION...

Size ISN'T EVERYTHING....I'd rather see a guy at 170 6% naturally use steroids then a guy the same height 190 17% bodyfat....A gain of 60+ pounds on hormones is EASY to do...