Hey guys, crazy mike here. I just got here and read this thread. Who is this idiot. I mean just using common sense says we don't advise and layout a cycle for a kid. Hmmm Since I got here I am amazed at the maturity of most of you guys and you know who you are. Helping by saying too young, get your diet, wrkout schedule and consistency whit both first and study up is conservative , moral and healthy. What I call very good advice. If a kid is going to shoot himself I'm not going to teach him how to load it. We could talk all about this but I just jumped in to say , you phd, sound very stupid, naive and uneducated. There are STUPID people with not a lick of sense with a degree of some sort. Anyway I was laughing and then I said to myself, sounds like this stupid trouble maker that was just banned, "sick beard". Huh I try to be cool but this is kind of a stupid go nowhere thread. Best it could develop ids for you to go away, or just sit back and listen to gain some insight...not so crazy mike