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    Turkish do you not see the benefits of simple sugars immediately post workout, there is so much controversy on the subject, however I have still been able to maintain 8%bf if not lose some using 80g dextrose immediately post workout, also combined with 50g protein, my recovery is great and am looking very lean and full.
    What are your takes on the so allied insulin spiking postworkout

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    Quote Originally Posted by auswest
    Turkish do you not see the benefits of simple sugars immediately post workout, there is so much controversy on the subject, however I have still been able to maintain 8%bf if not lose some using 80g dextrose immediately post workout, also combined with 50g protein, my recovery is great and am looking very lean and full.
    What are your takes on the so allied insulin spiking postworkout
    Calories may be calories but there is no sense spiking insulin at all IMO. You realise that ingesting carbs kill GH release? To ingest fast acting simple sugars immediately post workout is, quite frankly, GH suicide, when GH levels are higher than almost any other point in the day.
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    Quote Originally Posted by auswest View Post
    Turkish do you not see the benefits of simple sugars immediately post workout, there is so much controversy on the subject, however I have still been able to maintain 8%bf if not lose some using 80g dextrose immediately post workout, also combined with 50g protein, my recovery is great and am looking very lean and full.
    What are your takes on the so allied insulin spiking postworkout
    I agree with SteM on this subject.

    I am not a big fan of the idea of PWO insulin spike, and also happen to believe that PWO insulin spike is a big old justification ground for the many sugar loaded PWO products of the supplement industry.

    Insulin maybe an anabolic hormone; however, it also serves metabolism to a great extent by feeding the already existing fat reserves. If you are taking 80gr of Dextrose PWO and not gaining BF, well, I am glad that this is the case for you. I can only imagine that you have a very low CHO sensitivity and possibly on high doses of gear?

    Try going under 8% BF with 80gr Dextrose intake, you would see this to be a quite hard task to attain...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Turkish Juicer

    I agree with SteM on this subject.

    I am not a big fan of the idea of PWO insulin spike, and also happen to believe that PWO insulin spike is a big old justification ground for the many sugar loaded PWO products of the supplement industry.

    Insulin maybe an anabolic hormone; however, it also serves metabolism to a great extent by feeding the already existing fat reserves. If you are taking 80gr of Dextrose PWO and not gaining BF, well, I am glad that this is the case for you. I can only imagine that you have a very low CHO sensitivity and possibly on high doses of gear?

    Try going under 8% BF with 80gr Dextrose intake, you would see this to be a quite hard task to attain...
    True but when you're going lower than 8% I doubt building muscle is a goal, so this type of nutrition would be off limits possibly
    Insulin is our strongest anabolic hormone taking advantage of it when your body is in its most catabolic state just makes so much sense.

    I never really cared much for it, but have recently become a big fan of gregg plitt and aspire to him as the ideal physique, he incorporates this method, and it sure as hell doesn't effect him negatively, would he be the same without it who knows, it's all about finding out what works for the individual, I believe if your diet is 100% and all carbs are accounted for and worked into your macros, it is almost a contradiction to say you'll gain fat as most people stating insulin spiking is bro science do not believe in nutrition timing and slow/fast carbs they just look at your total for the day..

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    Quote Originally Posted by auswest View Post
    True but when you're going lower than 8% I doubt building muscle is a goal, so this type of nutrition would be off limits possibly
    Insulin is our strongest anabolic hormone taking advantage of it when your body is in its most catabolic state just makes so much sense.

    I never really cared much for it, but have recently become a big fan of gregg plitt and aspire to him as the ideal physique, he incorporates this method, and it sure as hell doesn't effect him negatively, would he be the same without it who knows, it's all about finding out what works for the individual, I believe if your diet is 100% and all carbs are accounted for and worked into your macros, it is almost a contradiction to say you'll gain fat as most people stating insulin spiking is bro science do not believe in nutrition timing and slow/fast carbs they just look at your total for the day..
    As I have said before, if it is working for you and Gregg, great. Many of us here are simply not blessed with the genetics of an ecto-meso and get fat when high GI simple sugars are incorporated to our diet. We can discuss whether PWO insulin spike is bro-science or not but a fact about Dextrose remains at the end of the day: it is pure sugar with a GI well over 140 on the index and it is simply not healthy.

    Have you ever come across with the term ''metabolic syndrome'' and possibly looked into the relation between consumption of high GI CHO and inflammation of the circulatory system as well as oxidation of cholesterol?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Turkish Juicer

    Have you ever come across with the term ''metabolic syndrome'' and possibly looked into the relation between consumption of high GI CHO and inflammation of the circulatory system as well as oxidation of cholesterol?
    Yes but sounded like bro science so quickly dismissed it.
    Haha nah I haven't ill have a read cheers,

    I understand ingesting dextrose is not a healthy thing to do, but I think you would struggle to out weigh healthy things we do with the unhealthy.

    Yes I am lucky enough to be ecto/mes body type, gaining weight is fkn hard until lifting I lived off junk and never gained an oz didn't have abs though mind you, so I can get away with alot that others cant, since posting this I am now using sizeon intra workout which contains 40g of carbs formulated for the reason I do it, I have now chosen to drop all dextrose post workout and will stick to lower gi carbs.

    Thanks

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