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1. why are u doing a depletion workout saturday am and plan to replenish carbs immediately??Originally Posted by energizer bunny
2. the purpose of depleting muscle glycogen is to force the body to utilize body fat for fuel as opposed to muscle glycogen. IMO ur depletion would be better positioned on monday and tuesday (i would run a 2 day depletion)..
3. what is IIFYM?
Last edited by --->>405<<---; 02-02-2013 at 05:30 PM.
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Hey 405 thanks droping in......1. why are u doing a depletion workout saturday am and plan to replenish carbs immediately??
2. the purpose of depleting muscle glycogen is to force the body to utilize body fat for fuel as opposed to muscle glycogen. IMO ur depletion would be better positioned on monday and tuesday (i would run a 2 day depletion)..
3. what is IIFYM?
1 and 2. with the reading i have been doing on CKD it clearly states to start your carb load immediately before-during-after your full body depletion work out, which for me will be sat a.m......i will have been with out carbs(well very limited) since the sunday evening so that would be roughly 5 half days so surely ill be useing fat for fuel during that week?
IIFYM......if it fits your macros.........
Last edited by energizer bunny; 02-03-2013 at 02:42 AM.
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maybe theres an approach im unfamiliar with, but that makes no sense to me looking at depletion from the perspective i learned about the carb cycle diet from. fully depleting muscle glycogen seems to serve no purpose if ur just going to refill it immediately.. id be interested to hear the explanation... typically it takes 10-12 sets per body part 15-20reps (under tension 45-60secs per set) at approx 60% 1 rep max to deplete muscle glycogen.
depending the workout split u have and how frequently and with what volume u lift will determine when muscle glycogen will be fully depleted. with the UD2.0 it took me 48hrs to deplete and this is with 2 days in a row of deliberate depletion workouts. assuming u just work out normally all week (which is the logical conclusion i come to based on the fact u stated u would do ur depletion workout saturday) u may not be depleted all week if u work one body part per day. now the ckd does not require glycogen depletion for fat loss to occur but im failing to see the reasoning behind the depletion workout if ur just gonna refill it immediately. maybe there is some sort of mechanism i am unaware of. curious to the reasoning given for the depletion workout? maybe i can learn something here.. what reason does the book give?
i would be careful with IIFYM .. theoretically it sounds like itd be ok but most tasty cheat type foods are heavy fat and carb laden with little to no protein. typically its hard to eat a decent amount of cheat type foods and get filled up to a satisfying level without compromising at least one of ur goal macros.. at least thats how i have found it to be.
maybe some carbs u can eat with high sugar content and low fat but the carb count adds up pretty quikly for the small amount of volume u get. for example 2 servings of my peanut butter capn crunch = 46g carbs (roughly the same as a cup oats). id get a lot more satiation from the cup oats..
what ckd book are u using?
this diet ur not going to implement until april right?
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cheers again for the reply........im following a protocol from lyle mcdonald for my ckd approach.......heres a link to an articale that i think explains all you are askingmaybe theres an approach im unfamiliar with, but that makes no sense to me looking at depletion from the perspective i learned about the carb cycle diet from. fully depleting muscle glycogen seems to serve no purpose if ur just going to refill it immediately.. id be interested to hear the explanation... typically it takes 10-12 sets per body part 15-20reps (under tension 45-60secs per set) at approx 60% 1 rep max to deplete muscle glycogen.
depending the workout split u have and how frequently and with what volume u lift will determine when muscle glycogen will be fully depleted. with the UD2.0 it took me 48hrs to deplete and this is with 2 days in a row of deliberate depletion workouts. assuming u just work out normally all week (which is the logical conclusion i come to based on the fact u stated u would do ur depletion workout saturday) u may not be depleted all week if u work one body part per day. now the ckd does not require glycogen depletion for fat loss to occur but im failing to see the reasoning behind the depletion workout if ur just gonna refill it immediately. maybe there is some sort of mechanism i am unaware of. curious to the reasoning given for the depletion workout? maybe i can learn something here.. what reason does the book give?
i would be careful with IIFYM .. theoretically it sounds like itd be ok but most tasty cheat type foods are heavy fat and carb laden with little to no protein. typically its hard to eat a decent amount of cheat type foods and get filled up to a satisfying level without compromising at least one of ur goal macros.. at least thats how i have found it to be.
maybe some carbs u can eat with high sugar content and low fat but the carb count adds up pretty quikly for the small amount of volume u get. for example 2 servings of my peanut butter capn crunch = 46g carbs (roughly the same as a cup oats). id get a lot more satiation from the cup oats..
what ckd book are u using?
this diet ur not going to implement until april right?
yes 405 ill not be starting this untill April as i am following a standard split at this time and getting results......and with IIFYM approach ill not be eating junk foods just wont be worrying about brown over white rice, sweet over normal potatoes etc....
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