Serious Cycle

[AK1983]

Actually, I didn't start at that dose but graduated to it rather quickly, I started at 2,200 & then jumped to 4,100 & then to 5,000 so a more accurate answer would be about 4 or 5 months at THAT dose

When u going to stop bear? What is the total length of your cycle

[The Bear 79]

When u going to stop bear? What is the total length of your cycle

I don't have a definitive end date, my goal is 300 lbs / 10%

[Papa Smurf]

I don't have a definitive end date, my goal is 300 lbs / 10%

Sooooooooooooooooooo sometime in your life your gonna be aroud 320, 325lbs? Post a pic...............then apply for you own zipcode ...... You can call it Bearville

[Granovich]

I don't have a definitive end date, my goal is 300 lbs / 10%

300 lbs with such low BF !!!!!!!!
is that even achievable !!!!! ?!???!?
not even ronnie coleman is 300 lbs at that BF %

[MickeyKnox]

300 lbs with such low BF !!!!!!!!
is that even achievable !!!!! ?!???!?
not even ronnie coleman is 300 lbs at that BF %

Its all bullshyt. The Bear is just a skinny high school kid with more time on his hands than a retired hockey player. He often tells tall tales and frequently has King Kong fantasies. His favorite show is the Sopranos..

[swm1972]

300 lbs with such low BF !!!!!!!!
is that even achievable !!!!! ?!???!?
not even ronnie coleman is 300 lbs at that BF %

Probably not. Coleman was very close to 290-295 contest weight. So we are talking about something only the most elite with responsive genetics will allow. Not everyone can be Mr Olympia. It takes more then gear. Diet. Both quality and quantity. Training. More hours then most of us have free. It has to become your job.

That said its his life and if that's his goal its his decision to make. But don't make such a decision without educating yourself on how unhealthy of a lifestyle this is. You aren't going to run 5 grams of gear a week indefinitely and not suffer consequences at some point in your life.

Sterility, erectile dysfunction, HRT for life will all seem pretty insignificant compared to an enlarged heart, heart attack due to continuous high blood pressure, liver failure, cholesterol levels off the charts etc. all these boogie man side effects most of us typically call bullshit on.... it's at extreme doses these effects become more possible.

When you see professional athletes (which I'd call pro BB's) fall over and die in their 30's and 40's despite exercising regularly, seems their may be a link to the extremes they went through to achieve their goals.

I've chased that dream so I'm not being critical. Just realistic.

[Granovich]

Probably not. Coleman was very close to 290-295 contest weight. So we are talking about something only the most elite with responsive genetics will allow. Not everyone can be Mr Olympia. It takes more then gear. Diet. Both quality and quantity. Training. More hours then most of us have free. It has to become your job.

That said its his life and if that's his goal its his decision to make. But don't make such a decision without educating yourself on how unhealthy of a lifestyle this is. You aren't going to run 5 grams of gear a week indefinitely and not suffer consequences at some point in your life.

Sterility, erectile dysfunction, HRT for life will all seem pretty insignificant compared to an enlarged heart, heart attack due to continuous high blood pressure, liver failure, cholesterol levels off the charts etc. all these boogie man side effects most of us typically call bullshit on.... it's at extreme doses these effects become more possible.

When you see professional athletes (which I'd call pro BB's) fall over and die in their 30's and 40's despite exercising regularly, seems their may be a link to the extremes they went through to achieve their goals.

I've chased that dream so I'm not being critical. Just realistic.

scary!!!
what about bodybuilders who are pros too but not that weight.
like 250 lbs @ 5'10 or so !
do those need to be on 5000g or so weekly ?
for example Frank mcgrath

[swm1972]

scary!!!
what about bodybuilders who are pros too but not that weight.
like 250 lbs @ 5'10 or so !
do those need to be on 5000g or so weekly ?
for example Frank mcgrath

I'm not sure five grams is necessary for anyone. Regardless of size. The heavy weights can get there with roughly half that dose if they run hgh and insulin. Risk/reward. Insulin is dangerous stuff but I personally believe it is necessary to compete at the highest levels. Again, not a healthy lifestyle.