Panntastic guide and insight into PIP

[panntastic]

Nice thread but I would like to give some input -Ive been injecting along time and I can say FOR ME warming the oil up before injection helps with PIP. I don't care if there aren't any studies or logic in it but I know it helps a lot with me. Lets forget about the cycles I do and go with my TRT which is Nebido a 4ml injection all at once for an example if I don't warm it up over a kettle before injecting I get PIP if I do warm it up I don't get any. My injection protocol is the same and I am very aware of the procedure but I can tell a difference if I warm it up. Take that as you may just giving some feedback from someone who's done many injections and from what ive seen with myself.

Great thread Panntastic keep up the good work

Thank you for the input Marcus
Do you think that with the nebido it's a volume thing and warming it up helps the very very thick castor oil more viscous allowing it to seep into the fibres better?
Your nebido is 250mg/ml is that correct?

[marcus300]

Thank you for the input Marcus
Do you think that with the nebido it's a volume thing and warming it up helps the very very thick castor oil more viscous allowing it to seep into the fibres better?
Your nebido is 250mg/ml is that correct?

I gave that as an example because I use that all the time but its the same with my cycles, not sure what it is but I can tell a difference.

[panntastic]

I gave that as an example because I use that all the time but its the same with my cycles, not sure what it is but I can tell a difference.

It's definitely an area I intend to do a lot more research in

[marcus300]

It's definitely an area I intend to do a lot more research in

Yes please do I would be interested in seeing if you come up with anything. Its not just a recent thing its been like this for years. Making the consistency thinner does something for me for sure.

[panntastic]

Yes please do I would be interested in seeing if you come up with anything. Its not just a recent thing its been like this for years. Making the consistency thinner does something for me for sure.

I can't find anything definite on the subject of warming AAS prior to IM administration I have however found a very interesting study on how the viscosity of certain vegetable oils along with fatty acids changes at certain temperatures.

If anyone would like to read the study it can be found here:
http://digitalcommons.unl.edu/cgi/vi...g_biomaterials

However like Marcus there are a multitude of people who swear by this practice of warming the solution for pain free administration.

I believe there may be a grain of truth behind this but I cannot find it in an official study.

It only leads me to surmise that it is something to do with either the Benzyl alcohol, Benzyl benzoate or the raw hormone acting differently when warmed or a combination of the 3 becoming completely homogenous at a certain temperature.

I'm only drawn to this conclusion because if a vial of AAS crashes out of solution we advise the person to warm it up to re enter a solution.

Maybe I'm thinking out of the box here and it is only my thoughts and don't advise anyone to follow the advice I'm about to write out.

But the whole idea of heating the vial to reduce pip is leading me to think that possibly AAS should either:
A; be stored at a warmer temperature
B; left at room temp as a minimum and warmed up prior to administration to ensure a homogenous solution.
(Kind of like shaking a winny suspension prior to use to try ensure even amount of suspension is drawn for accurate dosage)

Like I said this is me thinking outside the box and its completely hypothetical but I want to cover all bases on a subject not widely discussed.

Please guys share your comments and thoughts on this as I feel we could be on to something and hopefully maybe able to control pip and explain much better for future users