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    Quote Originally Posted by marcus300 View Post
    Well ive had serious results from running both at amounts what will produce muscle building and so have many of my clients and friends, so if your happy carry on doing what your doing but for me and many people I know who are serious lifters/bodybuilders run test high because its builds tissue.
    Consider this a learning debate for me vs an argument if you will Marcus but...if you run 500/500 test/tren and you are mainly running the test for extra tissue building...wouldnt it be JUST as effective, perhaps even more effective, to run 600-700 tren and 250 or less test? I would assume that you agree tren is a much more powerful compound with much better muscle building capabilities than test. I'm not saying I completely agree with the whole 5X stronger shyt but stronger indeed!

    We know that excess test causes a number of unwanted sided (yes they can be controlled with the use of an AI) but wouldn't it make a bit more sense to bring the excess test down and add a bit more of the stronger compound if you feel t5he current amount is not sufficient to build enough tissue?

    OR...are you saying that test builds tissue seperatly and differently than other compounds???

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lunk1 View Post
    Consider this a learning debate for me vs an argument if you will Marcus but...if you run 500/500 test/tren and you are mainly running the test for extra tissue building...wouldnt it be JUST as effective, perhaps even more effective, to run 600-700 tren and 250 or less test? I would assume that you agree tren is a much more powerful compound with much better muscle building capabilities than test. I'm not saying I completely agree with the whole 5X stronger shyt but stronger indeed!

    We know that excess test causes a number of unwanted sided (yes they can be controlled with the use of an AI) but wouldn't it make a bit more sense to bring the excess test down and add a bit more of the stronger compound if you feel t5he current amount is not sufficient to build enough tissue?

    OR...are you saying that test builds tissue seperatly and differently than other compounds???
    Sides can be controlled if you know what your doing and tren is alot stronger but the synergy between test and tren is remarkable and IMHO should be ran together at muscle building amounts. Ive ran that many cycles of test and tren Ive lost count so maybe if you experiement more you may also see great results. Everybody is different and I'm not saying you dont experience better or bigger gains when test is ran higher but I dont follow all this new craze of lower test, the reason why is because ive experience huge gains and better gains and many people I know have also. Its the synergy between the two just like test and hgh when you run the right amounts and control sides I experience great gains.

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    Quote Originally Posted by marcus300 View Post
    Sides can be controlled if you know what your doing and tren is alot stronger but the synergy between test and tren is remarkable and IMHO should be ran together at muscle building amounts. Ive ran that many cycles of test and tren Ive lost count so maybe if you experiement more you may also see great results. Everybody is different and I'm not saying you dont experience better or bigger gains when test is ran higher but I dont follow all this new craze of lower test, the reason why is because ive experience huge gains and better gains and many people I know have also. Its the synergy between the two just like test and hgh when you run the right amounts and control sides I experience great gains.
    So...is your preference higher test to tren ratio or equal amounts? Is there a set ratio you prefer! I'll be honest and say I have run tren/test 5X and only once have I run the test higher. Again...I cant say the results were any bet6ter in my experience but I'll be the first to admitt I was less experienced then...I may consider giving it another go down the road!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lunk1 View Post
    So...is your preference higher test to tren ratio or equal amounts? Is there a set ratio you prefer! I'll be honest and say I have run tren/test 5X and only once have I run the test higher. Again...I cant say the results were any bet6ter in my experience but I'll be the first to admitt I was less experienced then...I may consider giving it another go down the road!
    I run them about the same, but depends on what kind of cycle I am doing. Experiment more and see what you think if after a few cycles its doesnt work or you didnt see results go back to higher tren, but at least you can say you tried it many ways and it didnt work..

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    Quote Originally Posted by marcus300 View Post
    I run them about the same, but depends on what kind of cycle I am doing. Experiment more and see what you think if after a few cycles its doesnt work or you didnt see results go back to higher tren, but at least you can say you tried it many ways and it didnt work..
    I have tried it higher the first time and tried it in equal parts...then went to a low test protocal. Again...I cant say I noticed any better "gains" but I'm sure alot could be attributed to lack of experience. I may give it a go next fall.....

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