Quote Originally Posted by stillernation View Post
Before I get slammed with this is a terrible idea, let me say I KNOW. Some dudes at my gym back home, younger guys, all starter winny only cycles, no pct or hcg. Im not real familiar with orals other than theyre hard to keep your test levels stable causing sides, harsh on the liver, and and still shut down natty test. I haven't talked to my one buddy who did this cycle, but his friend told me he's got mad dry skin, and mood swings like a teenage girl. I was just curious if he were to have taken hcg during the cycle, followed by proper PCT, are these sides avoidable? how dangerous is this for him, because I was shocked that he would do an oral only. He supposivly got solid gains (once again haven't seen him so cant attest.) But basically if someone could let me know if there was a possible way to run oral only without being an idiot? And no this isn't me haha, literally old friend at the gym.
No, there is not.

Test only first cycle bro. And if you're thinking about using an oral, then its not recommended that you do this without at least a small testosterone base to replace your natural test production. Otherwise you could end up crying like a little girl and experiencing mad erectile dysfunction, and a host of other crazy sides that will have a very difficult time accessing and controlling.