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    Quote Originally Posted by JohnnnyBlazzze View Post
    I've never physically seen an individual go through a Superdrol cycle so I can't comment much on the compound as I have little to no knowledge on it.

    If it's not a PH then what is it? Are you saying it's a legal anabolic steroid but not labeled a PH?

    20lbs plus 2lbs during PCT so 22lbs in how long? 4 weeks? Don't see why everybody isn't using this, sounds amazing
    Superdrol IS a legal AAS but was marketed as a PH( well, before it got banned anyway, but alot of people bought stock so theres still plenty out there)...But a PH converts to a steroid after passing through the liver while THERE IS NO CONVERSION for SD...It is an active steroid straight from the bottle....If I remember right, its basically an oral version of masteron, or atleast very similar...The problem is that its methylated so very toxic to the liver...

    Yes, a cycle is typically 4 weeks....Most members here are against PH's OR anything marketed as a PH due to all the horror stories also the fact that it supresses/shuts down natural test and with no test being introduced to the body, it can come with some nasty sides if proper precaution is not taken.....so Most members here would rather stick with good old test...

    And as far as the weight gain goes, 15ibs seems about average, but some cases have reported upwards of 25ibs when everything is said and some cases as low as 5ibs......It all depends on dose, diet and exercise. It is a strong steroid and not smoething to be taken lightly...

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    Quote Originally Posted by EyE View Post
    Superdrol IS a legal AAS but was marketed as a PH( well, before it got banned anyway, but alot of people bought stock so theres still plenty out there)...But a PH converts to a steroid after passing through the liver while THERE IS NO CONVERSION for SD...It is an active steroid straight from the bottle....If I remember right, its basically an oral version of masteron, or atleast very similar...The problem is that its methylated so very toxic to the liver...

    Yes, a cycle is typically 4 weeks....Most members here are against PH's OR anything marketed as a PH due to all the horror stories also the fact that it supresses/shuts down natural test and with no test being introduced to the body, it can come with some nasty sides if proper precaution is not taken.....so Most members here would rather stick with good old test...

    And as far as the weight gain goes, 15ibs seems about average, but some cases have reported upwards of 25ibs when everything is said and some cases as low as 5ibs......It all depends on dose, diet and exercise. It is a strong steroid and not smoething to be taken lightly...
    Educated members won't waste there time shutting themselves down and stressing there liver for 4 weeks for something like Superdrol.

    OP -

    It might be discouraging that you're in this situation and you can't cycle but you can use this time to benefit yourself in dialing down your diet and developing a solid training split and continue to train naturally. I wouldn't mess with a PH or anything if you are being watched under a microscope and being tested. Why take the risk?

    At 145lbs you should still be able to make some quality gains naturally.

    If you are unable to properly medicate with an AAS, AI, SERM, or HCG or develop a proper cycle then I wouldn't try to find a lesser quality alternative just for the sake of being on something. Just my opinion .

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