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    Quote Originally Posted by Atomini View Post
    By the way, many UGLs don't even properly brew their Trenbolone correctly with Finaplix pellets, with almost always contain Estrogen in them as well. Most of the time if you use Trenbolone, you are already injecting pure Estrogen into yourself with Trenbolone.

    Next time you do a Trenbolone cycle, inject Trenbolone ONLY for the first week of your cycle, get bloodwork done, and then you will find out if your UGL is cutting corners by brewing Finaplix pellets with Estrogen in it, and not separating the Estrogen.
    I didn't know that. Thanks. I will do what you suggested. It is UGL. I'll need to come back to baseline before I do this experiment. I didn't suggest anyone else should do this. I'm not basing the hypothesis on the oversimplified representation in the OP and you don't know me so I won't get offended by your assumption that I'm such an ignorant simpleton that I would think " if we do this with cows maybe it'll work in me' I do have a little more background knowledge and experience than that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Java Man View Post
    I didn't know that. Thanks. I will do what you suggested. It is UGL. I'll need to come back to baseline before I do this experiment. I didn't suggest anyone else should do this. I'm not basing the hypothesis on the oversimplified representation in the OP and you don't know me so I won't get offended by your assumption that I'm such an ignorant simpleton that I would think " if we do this with cows maybe it'll work in me' I do have a little more background knowledge and experience than that.
    I by no means was inferring that you were being ignorant or simplistic. But guess what? This WILL work in humans... for building muscle. But you need to ask yourself the following questions:

    Is it worth any benefit in any other aspect to the body? No. We have documented the negative effects of excessive Estrogen levels in men pretty extensively. It isn't pretty.

    Is it going to provide any increased muscle growth? Yes. However...

    Is it going to provide any increased muscle growth that very significant above running Trenbolone in a normal Estrogen environment? Probably not. You're probably splitting hairs with this hypothesis.

    You'd need to have this conducted in a proper double-blind placebo controlled study to be able to see whether or not there is any significant difference in LBM and strength between a group that uses Trenbolone without excessive Estrogen levels, a group that uses Trenbolone with exessive Estrogen levels, and then a control group, and it needs to be done on humans which will unfortunately never happen in our lifetime.

    Well, you can try it out yourself... but there are too many uncontrolled variables here that is going to end up in inaccurate results (especially since you're not directly comparing it with any other 'test subjects' simultaneously). Are you getting bloodwork done to monitor your E2 levels? And are you going to be doing it on a weekly basis? Either way, let us know how it goes.

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