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    My question is WHY??? Why has TRT not been researched through and through. Obviously it's a gold mine but I just can't comprehend why there is a lack of knowledge on the subject. Every PHD should be required to READ THE STICKIES before prescribing any form of testosterone!!! Lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by VTX1800 View Post
    My question is WHY??? Why has TRT not been researched through and through. Obviously it's a gold mine but I just can't comprehend why there is a lack of knowledge on the subject. Every PHD should be required to READ THE STICKIES before prescribing any form of testosterone!!! Lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by powerlifterty16 View Post
    doctors dont view testosterone as important.
    Bingo!


    They will when they get older....
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    Quote Originally Posted by VTX1800 View Post
    My question is WHY??? Why has TRT not been researched through and through. Obviously it's a gold mine but I just can't comprehend why there is a lack of knowledge on the subject. Every PHD should be required to READ THE STICKIES before prescribing any form of testosterone!!! Lol
    Medicine is an odd, insular field. I studied molecular biology at uni, and for some electives they let me take classes in the medical school because I was interested in neurobiology and immunology. I was very surprised at how the med school classes were different than the other science classes. In the med school classes there were no points for original thinking or reasoning - it was basically read a text and be able to spit any part back at the prof when asked. Memorise the text - that was what we were doing. In the rest of science reasoning and new ideas are very exciting and you tend to be positively reinforced for this.

    It's strange that there are these little pockets of medicine where there aren't good textbooks (or there were good ones which are not being produced any longer), and probably no professors at med schools teaching about these "fringe" things. Sex hormones is a big area, so are the thyroid/adrenal hormones (which are not well treated at all, even by endos) and chronic heavy metals exposure (lead, mercury) is another one. People are so desperate to feel better that they treat themselves, as has been said here you can learn more online in a few days than most docs know.

    The sad thing is that even when doctors who go against the tide get good results they are still looked at as nutters by mainstream docs (because they never learned this stuff in med school - the alternative doctor has to have made it up or has no evidence), or even worse, those docs are accused of malpractice (this is common in the UK) for not following treatment guidelines (which as you know, is antidepressants in 75% of cases).

    And then of course, no human hormone is patentable, so pharmaceutical companies have no interest other than creating synthetics. So that's a big reason people are not doing studies - there is no money to be made and studies are expensive.

    Sorry for going on - the many ways in which medicine is failing people is a real pet peeve of mine.

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    And then of course, no human hormone is patentable, so pharmaceutical companies have no interest other than creating synthetics. So that's a big reason people are not doing studies - there is no money to be made and studies are expensive. .[/QUOTE]
    Exactly!

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    Quote Originally Posted by 100% View Post
    Exactly!
    I enjoyed reading your post! Some good points were made.

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    Quote Originally Posted by thisAngelBites View Post
    Medicine is an odd, insular field. I studied molecular biology at uni, and for some electives they let me take classes in the medical school because I was interested in neurobiology and immunology. I was very surprised at how the med school classes were different than the other science classes. In the med school classes there were no points for original thinking or reasoning - it was basically read a text and be able to spit any part back at the prof when asked. Memorise the text - that was what we were doing. In the rest of science reasoning and new ideas are very exciting and you tend to be positively reinforced for this.

    It's strange that there are these little pockets of medicine where there aren't good textbooks (or there were good ones which are not being produced any longer), and probably no professors at med schools teaching about these "fringe" things. Sex hormones is a big area, so are the thyroid/adrenal hormones (which are not well treated at all, even by endos) and chronic heavy metals exposure (lead, mercury) is another one. People are so desperate to feel better that they treat themselves, as has been said here you can learn more online in a few days than most docs know.

    The sad thing is that even when doctors who go against the tide get good results they are still looked at as nutters by mainstream docs (because they never learned this stuff in med school - the alternative doctor has to have made it up or has no evidence), or even worse, those docs are accused of malpractice (this is common in the UK) for not following treatment guidelines (which as you know, is antidepressants in 75% of cases).

    And then of course, no human hormone is patentable, so pharmaceutical companies have no interest other than creating synthetics. So that's a big reason people are not doing studies - there is no money to be made and studies are expensive.

    Sorry for going on - the many ways in which medicine is failing people is a real pet peeve of mine.
    Good post, I agree.

    Also, my current doctor used to think the same things about these other doctors are whack-jobs and crooks... now he practices that same "quackery" because it actually improves people's level of well being. Go figure

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