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[xxcjtxx]

You contradicted yourself there in my opinion.
If your not growing quick enough your not training hard enough or eating enough in my eyes.
I don't want to hear hard gainer nonsense because that's crap
If you want to grow you need to eat
You say a minimum of 200g protein a day?
This tells me you haven't worked out your macros correctly if you don't know what exact figure your aiming for.
Just my thoughts

I cant get an exact number because there is no exact number. It always changes because your body is always changing. If you are bulking for 4 months, you think you are going to have the exact same grams of protein per day at the beginning than you do at the end of the bulk? Thats why I put my macros are 45/30/25, but regardless if I am bulking or cutting, the number of grams of protein is over 200g. Thats why I said that. If you want me to give you an exact number for every time I gain a pound I can do that, a little bit unnecessary though.

Its cool that some people can look at my age, then look at the research and make a valid conclusion about what they think about what I am presenting, but others that look at my age then bash every little thing and try to belittle what I am saying purely because of that, aren't proving anything.

I was 155 at 7-10% body fat when I started 4 years ago. I am now 194 at 7-9% body fat.

This is getting completely off topic. Its almost like you are digging as deep as possible and trying to find anything you can BESIDES my age to turn me away from it. Like I said, I didnt come here having my mind made up, I came for advice from personal experiences and things of that nature. If you dont have an argument besides my age, dont go looking for one, just state that my age is the only reason and that is completely fine.

I never said at any point "If my age is the only thing making this a bad idea, then I'm going to do it!"

I haven't made up my mind. I am weighing out all the options and taking all of this information and personal experiences into account before I risk anything.

Shoutout to Lunk1.

[Tron3219]

I cant get an exact number because there is no exact number. It always changes because your body is always changing. If you are bulking for 4 months, you think you are going to have the exact same grams of protein per day at the beginning than you do at the end of the bulk? Thats why I put my macros are 45/30/25, but regardless if I am bulking or cutting, the number of grams of protein is over 200g. Thats why I said that. If you want me to give you an exact number for every time I gain a pound I can do that, a little bit unnecessary though.

Its cool that some people can look at my age, then look at the research and make a valid conclusion about what they think about what I am presenting, but others that look at my age then bash every little thing and try to belittle what I am saying purely because of that, aren't proving anything.

I was 155 at 7-10% body fat when I started 4 years ago. I am now 194 at 7-9% body fat.

This is getting completely off topic. Its almost like you are digging as deep as possible and trying to find anything you can BESIDES my age to turn me away from it. Like I said, I didnt come here having my mind made up, I came for advice from personal experiences and things of that nature. If you dont have an argument besides my age, dont go looking for one, just state that my age is the only reason and that is completely fine.

I never said at any point "If my age is the only thing making this a bad idea, then I'm going to do it!"

I haven't made up my mind. I am weighing out all the options and taking all of this information and personal experiences into account before I risk anything.

Shoutout to Lunk1.

I like how ur keeping an open mind an not just being one of those snot nosed know it all punks. But just to give u first hand experience from me. When I was younger I did some stupid shit. Like running dbol only cycles, no pct or ai. Not long after that I ran sus dbol and some other shit. Again, no pct or ai. Now in 28 and have natural test levels in the low 300's. just take a look sometime at how old u hve to b to have normal levels in the low 300's. ehh fvck it, I'll tell u...like fvckin 70! Lol it sucks! Yeah, having a pct, ai and all that jazz may increas ur chances slightly of not permanently damaging ur endo system. But there's still a good chance that you will. And that's what we don't wanna see happen.

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