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    Hey Ron, I have another question regarding the 8 week beginner routine you have, what would you recommend for the 2 week deload? Same routine but less volume. Or tackle another one of your routines with low volume as well? And if you do recommend that then would I carry the same routine into the following 8 week reload? Or change the routine again?

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    Wow what a thread..read the whole thing over the course of 5 days! Anyway I decided to do 2 reloads/deloads with the current cycle which I am on the start of week 3 (which is test e 500mg so far) here is my plan..

    RELOAD/DELOAD 1-Lean Bulk

    Test e- 500mg weeks 1 to 8 (frontloaded 1 gram during first week)
    Test e- 250 weeks 9 and 10

    RELOAD/DELOAD 2 recomp/lean out

    Test e at 500 weeks 11-18
    Tren e at 250 weeks 11-18
    Test e 250 weeks 19 and 20

    Stats are: age 28- 6'3- 210 and 15 or 16%.

    As far as training, im using your guidelines as far as intensity and volume (making sure I don't overtrain) I also do moderate intensity cardio for 20 mins. 4 times a week.

    Im taking in approx. 3500 cals with 250g of proetin and moderate carbs right now for the lean bulk (200-250)

    For reload 2 I'm going to take out 100 carbs (or maybe just drop to 200?) and a little fat for a goal of 3000 cals. per day

    I will be doing cardio for reload 2 as well, maybe 30 mins. 4 times a week.

    This is my first aas cycle although I've done several prohormones and designer steroids. Now when you say "first cycles" have the most potential for gains, do you mean first aas cycle or would ph/ds count towards that meaning this wouldn't be considered a first cycle?

    PCT will consist of torem and possibly hcg (most likely)
    I'm really looking forward to your feedback on this cycle as a whole (any improvments to be made?) Thanks Ronnie!
    Last edited by Placebo; 05-06-2013 at 09:49 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Placebo View Post
    Wow what a thread..read the whole thing over the course of 5 days! Anyway I decided to do 2 reloads/deloads with the current cycle which I am on the start of week 3 (which is test e 500mg so far) here is my plan..

    RELOAD/DELOAD 1-Lean Bulk

    Test e- 500mg weeks 1 to 8 (frontloaded 1 gram during first week)
    Test e- 250 weeks 9 and 10

    RELOAD/DELOAD 2 recomp/lean out

    Test e at 500 weeks 11-18
    Tren e at 250 weeks 11-18
    Test e 250 weeks 19 and 20

    Stats are: age 28- 6'3- 210 and 15 or 16%.

    As far as training, im using your guidelines as far as intensity and volume (making sure I don't overtrain) I also do moderate intensity cardio for 20 mins. 4 times a week.

    Im taking in approx. 3500 cals with 250g of proetin and moderate carbs right now for the lean bulk (200-250)

    For reload 2 I'm going to take out 100 carbs (or maybe just drop to 200?) and a little fat for a goal of 3000 cals. per day

    I will be doing cardio for reload 2 as well, maybe 30 mins. 4 times a week.

    This is my first aas cycle although I've done several prohormones and designer steroids. Now when you say "first cycles" have the most potential for gains, do you mean first aas cycle or would ph/ds count towards that meaning this wouldn't be considered a first cycle?

    PCT will consist of torem and possibly hcg (most likely)
    I'm really looking forward to your feedback on this cycle as a whole (any improvments to be made?) Thanks Ronnie!
    It really depends on the pro hormone used. Some of them are basically designer steroids and produce nice gains. So,it's impossible for me to say. I would reduce the cardio to 2-3 days per week and do HIIT for only 10-15 minutes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dadstrength View Post
    Hey Ron, I have another question regarding the 8 week beginner routine you have, what would you recommend for the 2 week deload? Same routine but less volume. Or tackle another one of your routines with low volume as well? And if you do recommend that then would I carry the same routine into the following 8 week reload? Or change the routine again?
    I would change over to 4 day split with very low volume during first deload then crank up the training volume using that same training split for the next 8 week reload!

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