Fatsed Cardio vs PWO Cardio - thinking of changing routine to maximize lifts

[cj111]

I've done both.
I like the feeling after fasted cardio in the morning, like you're ready for the day! Its a weird feeling...
I also like doing 40 min PWO,

Bottom line who cares when you do it, as long as you're making the effort to consistantly do something!
As far as burning muscle while doing cardio fasted, never happened to me. I believe the whole catabolism thing is really over played

[Live for the PUMP]

I've done both.
I like the feeling after fasted cardio in the morning, like you're ready for the day! Its a weird feeling...
I also like doing 40 min PWO,

Bottom line who cares when you do it, as long as you're making the effort to consistantly do something!
As far as burning muscle while doing cardio fasted, never happened to me. I believe the whole catabolism thing is really over played

Absolutely!

[M302_Imola]

Well, by that token, would you say that glycogen levels are depleted PWO? Or do you think there's more bang for buck after sleeping 8 hours, etc.?

I like what you did there with the word "token" since my post referred to time being money...nicely done Live for the PUMP had a nice reply to your question. Whether glycogen levels are lower when you wake up in the morn (after 8 hrs. sleep) or after an intense workout (intensity will vary) is a good question but I'm not sure we can answer it. I would dare to say glycogen levels are lower in the morn upon waking since the body has been at idle for 8 hrs. and blood glucose levels should also be the lowest at this time. None-the-less both fasted cardio and pwo cardio are beneficial from a fatloss standpoint. If I had to choose (and my work schedule didn't interfere then I would choose fasted morn cardio.

Glycogen levels get depleted after a workout. How much depends on intensity and duration. None the less they are depleted to a point where cardio is MUCH more beneficial. The reason is because now your body must rely on adipose tissue (fat) for its energy. Thus burning fat. Yes the morning is the most beneficial time to do cardio. Your body will burn 300% more fat this way. Why burn off food that you ate when you can burn off stored fat in your body?? No-brainer to me.

Nice reply!

I hear you, everything you say makes sense. I've found though as a skinny-fat lil' runt, I can only diet/cardio so much before my genes take over an cause me to lose muscle and keep fat. I've been talking with GBrice about it a lot lately, I'm starting to think that for guys like me, we just have to keep eating and make up for it with lots of cardio. - Keep the furnace stoked and burning white-hot. Otherwise we get into the catabolic state much more easily than others.
P.S., great arms/shoulders man, I hope to have half of that someday!

You're correct in that there are a lot of different body types so what works for one might not work for another. Do you use peptides (GHRP/GHRH)? If not, you should be! They are exceptionally good at helping you stay anti catabolic during cardio and at other points in the day...not to mention they essentially speed up your metabolism where you can feed the muscle tissue more nutrients while staying just as lean if not leaner. Example, my maintenance cals use to be right around 3000 when I was around 195 @12% bf...since I've been on peps I've raised my maintenance cals to between 3300-3500 while now weighing 200 lbs. @ 10% bf. Now granted my fatloss strategy and training has been enhanced by me gaining knowledge in this area and also knowing my body. GHRP/GHRH can be a big help at helping shed fat (while staying anti catabolic) when pinned before fasted morn cardio or pwo cardio. Here's my typical plan before fasted cardio: wake up and pin peps at 4:30 am then roll over and go back to bed until 5:30am, then I get ready and head to the treadmill at the gym, I do 30-40 mins LISS cardio (HR around 130 BPM), which is normally a 10% incline at 3.5 mph. The peps help release ffa (fatty acids) into the blood stream (which normally takes 1-1.5 hrs. after your shot for peak release) and then the LISS cardio burns off these fatty acids thus eventually leading to a leaner physique while HOPEFULLY holding on to lean muscle tissue. If one desires to burn even more ffa's then staying fasted a couple hrs. after your cardio can help in this regard. Anyhow, this has worked for me and I thought it might be a help to some.

I've done both.
I like the feeling after fasted cardio in the morning, like you're ready for the day! Its a weird feeling...
I also like doing 40 min PWO,

You're right, after morn fasted cardio I typically get this euphoric feeling...love this feeling!

[Live for the PUMP]

I like what you did there with the word "token" since my post referred to time being money...nicely done Live for the PUMP had a nice reply to your question. Whether glycogen levels are lower when you wake up in the morn (after 8 hrs. sleep) or after an intense workout (intensity will vary) is a good question but I'm not sure we can answer it. I would dare to say glycogen levels are lower in the morn upon waking since the body has been at idle for 8 hrs. and blood glucose levels should also be the lowest at this time. None-the-less both fasted cardio and pwo cardio are beneficial from a fatloss standpoint. If I had to choose (and my work schedule didn't interfere then I would choose fasted morn cardio.



Nice reply!

Thanks!