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    Quote Originally Posted by baseline_9 View Post
    Yet another case of missing the bigger picture.....

    To many false statements and assumptions in this reply to even begin.....


    I reccomended you research metabolism as a whole rather than just the acute effects of a cardio session that is burning fatty acids....
    I'm not sure what you don't agree with here...?? These are not my opinions. These are facts based on personal training books.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Live for the PUMP View Post
    Glycogen levels get depleted after a workout yes, slightly.... How much depends on intensity and durationYep.... None the less they are depleted to a point where cardio is MUCH more beneficial Really? Based on what? And what do you mean by 'much more beneficial'.... I could argue that cardio performance will be impaired thus reducing overall caloric output which will in turn yield less weight loss.... The reason is because now your body must rely on adipose tissue (fat) for its energyThe body relies primarily on fatty acids as substrate for low intensity cardio anyway..... Thus burning fat. Yes the morning is the most beneficial time to do cardioBig statement here..... Kind of a black and white statement.... Beneficial for what? Based on what? . Your body will burn 300% more fat this way 300%.... Now that sounds like a nice round convincing number..... Does this take into account metabolism as a whole and the overall daily trends as far as fat loss is concerned.... No it doesn't...... Why burn off food that you ate when you can burn off stored fat in your body??Burning Glycogen and or free glucose as a substrate would indicate a higher intensity of cardio.... Which would cause a larger energy burn.... And the overall effects will create a greater energy deficit which in turn will result in greater overall Bodyfat loss.... No-brainer to me.
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    I'm not sure what you don't agree with here...?? These are not my opinions. These are facts based on personal training books.

    My problem is that we can't make black and white statements.... There are too many variables to take into consideration to simply say that one thing is best......

    Out of interest what books? And are these facts backed on relevant studies (ie. ones that look into long term trends rather than acute results)....
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    Quote Originally Posted by baseline_9 View Post
    My problem is that we can't make black and white statements.... There are too many variables to take into consideration to simply say that one thing is best......

    Out of interest what books? And are these facts backed on relevant studies (ie. ones that look into long term trends rather than acute results)....
    Ok. I respect your position here as a vet. No doubt you are highly knowledgeable. I am not going to tell you that you are wrong. I will say that every sentence I posted I believe to be true to 100%. My knowledge is based off of over 12 yrs training, trial and error, experience, and a stack of books to say the least.

    I am not saying you don't have an argument or you are wrong. There is lots of contradicting publications out there. I live, eat, breath, and teach the information I provide and it works for me and the people I help just as I expect it too.

    When I do cardio fasted first thing in the morning my glycogen levels are depleted (stored carbohydrates). Therefore my body will go straight to its fat stores for energy, thus burning fat. The only other time my glycogen stores are depleted is right after a workout. Therefore when I do cardio as soon as I get my heart rate at the target zone I am burning stored fat vs. burning carbs i ate. Why you ask? Sorry brother but I am no science major. I know this and it works for me is all I can say. Do you need to be cautious not to burn muscle? Absolutely! Fasted cardio in the morning I wouldn't do over 30 minutes and I would stay in fat burning zone (NOT CARDIO zone) After workout I would say 45 mins at an absolute max again in fat burning zone. Personally I wouldn't do over 30 mins. Also HIIT is good for a max of 15-20 mins.

    You wanted to know the books I get my info from..
    -American Counsel of Exercise (ACE)
    -It is a stack of various personal training books
    -The Body Sculpting Bible for Men (by James Villepigue and Hugo Rivera)
    -Also where I got the 300% factor

    respect bro

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