Another interesting "Singularity" read....

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I realize this is an old thread but was curious to this "singularity" so i lookd into it. A lot of Non-Christian humans sure do hold our intellectual ability in high regard it seems. It is almost as if our intellectual ability takes on a sort of deity to these people. Not a good idea IMO.

I am still baffled at the fact that people who see themselves as so smart can actually believe all this came from nothing. Very foolish IMO.

Im curious, I know your a religious man but,
Do you not believe our intellectual ability can grow as generations pass?
As humans intellect has come a long way do you think it could not be passed on to machines and eventually grow into artificial intelligence?
A self learning robot/computer maybe

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Im curious, I know your a religious man but,
Do you not believe our intellectual ability can grow as generations pass?
As humans intellect has come a long way do you think it could not be passed on to machines and eventually grow into artificial intelligence?
A self learning robot/computer maybe

I would be foolish to think we cannot advance in our thinking and technology as it has already been done and continues to occur daily

However as a God-fearing man i recognize the place of mankind in the pecking order and that is beneath God. I cant allow myself to hold our ability, as finite errant human beings, in a position that may go contrary to scripture. The line in the sand is not necessarily clear but moral improvement as a society due to advances in technology and/or thinking (our ability to increase our thinking) is NOT going to happen. Our society has deteriorated (IMO) alongside the advancement of technology, or maybe we are just more aware of it due to the increased accessibility to information.

We will only improve morally when we are freed from sin. Sin is the cause for our problems. It is a spiritual issue, not an intellectual one.

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I would be foolish to think we cannot advance in our thinking and technology as it has already been done and continues to occur daily

However as a God-fearing man i recognize the place of mankind in the pecking order and that is beneath God. I cant allow myself to hold our ability, as finite errant human beings, in a position that may go contrary to scripture. The line in the sand is not necessarily clear but moral improvement as a society due to advances in technology and/or thinking (our ability to increase our thinking) is NOT going to happen. Our society has deteriorated (IMO) alongside the advancement of technology, or maybe we are just more aware of it due to the increased accessibility to information.

We will only improve morally when we are freed from sin. Sin is the cause for our problems. It is a spiritual issue, not an intellectual one.

Does the thought of an all knowing computer/robot not boot the pecking order around a bit?
It certainly changes things?

Also would artificial intelligence be classed as amoral therefore free from sin and spiritual guidance

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Does the thought of an all knowing computer/robot not boot the pecking order around a bit?
It certainly changes things?

ar·ti·fi·cial
adjective \ˌär-tə-ˈfi-shəl\
Definition of ARTIFICIAL
1
: humanly contrived often on a natural model : man-made <an artificial limb> <artificial diamonds>

Intelligence
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Intelligence has been defined in many different ways including, but not limited to, abstract thought, understanding, self-awareness, communication, reasoning, learning, having emotional knowledge, retaining, planning, and problem solving.

Intelligence is most widely studied in humans, but has also been observed in animals and in plants. Artificial intelligence is the simulation of intelligence in machines.

i have a hard time believing a creation could surpass its creator intellectually. i also have a hard time believing a machine could think and reason and be creative. i do think its possible to make a robot or machine that mimicks intelligence, but the real deal?? hmmm.. i dunno.. seems far fetched, only God has the ability to create life..

Also would artificial intelligence be classed as amoral therefore free from sin and spiritual guidance

answering this would require me to agree with the possibility of the existence of artificial intelligence in the same manner in which u intended it in the question. i do not agree with the possibility.

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i have a hard time believing a creation could surpass its creator intellectually. i also have a hard time believing a machine could think and reason and be creative. i do think its possible to make a robot or machine that mimicks intelligence, but the real deal?? hmmm.. i dunno.. seems far fetched, only God has the ability to create life..



answering this would require me to agree with the possibility of the existence of artificial intelligence in the same manner in which u intended it in the question. i do not agree with the possibility.

we've already had a small glimpse into this for at least 15 years now. the best chess player in the world (Casparov) has been beaten by a machine while playing chess. If it can happen in an extremely complex game like chess, it can happen in any niche. and if that happened 15+ years ago, imagine what it can do today with our better technology?

The very best minds on the subject today are almost in 100% agreement the question is not "IF" a computer will be vastly more intelligent than a human, but "when" that will happen.

Many are saying that the singularity will emerge by the year 2045. When this happens, AI will be more intelligent than biological intelligence. And the gap between the two intelligences will only accelerate. Here is an interesting article for you to read:

Singularity: Kurzweil on 2045, When Humans, Machines Merge - TIME

and from wiki:

Technological singularity - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

this is with our existing tech (silicon wafer chips utilizing a binary language). All bets are off once we develop a quantum chip/computer. If/when we develop a quantum computer, it's intelligence will grow much faster than the simple squared acceleration chart we are used to seeing. Instead, it will accelerate at it's cubed (squared, then MULTIPLIED by itself again) power, and will go almost vertical on the charts. Shortly after, in comparison, it will have the intelligence of a god, and we the ant. I just hope that it never gets a boot, else it may accidently step on us!!!

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we've already had a small glimpse into this for at least 15 years now. the best chess player in the world (Casparov) has been beaten by a machine while playing chess. If it can happen in an extremely complex game like chess, it can happen in any niche. and if that happened 15+ years ago, imagine what it can do today with our better technology?

The very best minds on the subject today are almost in 100% agreement the question is not "IF" a computer will be vastly more intelligent than a human, but "when" that will happen.

Many are saying that the singularity will emerge by the year 2045. When this happens, AI will be more intelligent than biological intelligence. And the gap between the two intelligences will only accelerate. Here is an interesting article for you to read:

Singularity: Kurzweil on 2045, When Humans, Machines Merge - TIME

and from wiki:

Technological singularity - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

this is with our existing tech (silicon wafer chips utilizing a binary language). All bets are off once we develop a quantum chip/computer. If/when we develop a quantum computer, it's intelligence will grow much faster than the simple squared acceleration chart we are used to seeing. Instead, it will accelerate at it's cubed (squared, then MULTIPLIED by itself again) power, and will go almost vertical on the charts. Shortly after, in comparison, it will have the intelligence of a god, and we the ant. I just hope that it never gets a boot, else it may accidently step on us!!!

I was just reading on googles new super quantum computer
Where normal computers only think in 1's or 0's their new quantum computer can think in both at the same time.

http://m.cnet.com/news/google-quantu...gence/57584839