The beginning

[animalstuff]

Yes of course I understand your frustration but the guys wont be building 30lbs of muscle in months it will be water weight. Your HPTA isn't fully developed till around the age of 24-25 yrs old the risk of shutting it down isn't worth it IMHO, why shut down a naturally high testosterone level when you can use it and build a solid base and from what you have done you don't need it yet anyway. Please re read what I wrote in post 4 you have a choice its up to you if you want to run the risk

thanks marcus! i was just curious as to if there was a way to test it, i really do appreciate everything you've said and coming at me respectfully as opposed to dumping on me for being young i will definitely reconsider using

[marcus300]

thanks marcus! i was just curious as to if there was a way to test it, i really do appreciate everything you've said and coming at me respectfully as opposed to dumping on me for being young

From your stats you have come a long way that's why its very important not to fuk up your hormonal system because trust me low test is a living hell and at your age you don't want that. You still can go a long way just step up your training and learn more regarding your diet if you have come this far you can go further.

[animalstuff]

From your stats you have come a long way that's why its very important not to fuk up your hormonal system because trust me low test is a living hell and at your age you don't want that. You still can go a long way just step up your training and learn more regarding your diet if you have come this far you can go further.

Thanks for the encouragement! i'll do my best to hold off