18 year old - cycle caution

[Times Roman]

I definitely want to talk to an Endocrinologist.

I understand that it is considered unethical to produce studies of hormones on young adults, but that is precisely why I decided to come to this forum; to see the REAL data of steroid use- the users.

As for prematurely developing ED, is that strictly based on the off-balance of hormones and having an extreme surplus of testosterone? Or, is it genetic? I know next-to-nothing about ED.

And for regards to TRT at a young age; If I do start a cycle too young and my T-levels are wonked for life, wouldn't it be in the healthiest decision to go on TRT anyways? (Of course, avoiding the idea of TRT is even better and that's what you're preaching to me)

Thanks again for you reply, I know it's frustrating, but I'm just trying to learn and understand.

ED can be caused by a variety of things, such as low test production, or estradiol levels too high, or LH out of range.....

TRT is something you do NOT want to have to do! It means injections the rest of your life, having to monitor blood levels, etc. As test aromatizes, it converts to estradiol (aka estrogen), and quite often you have to control that as well with an AI. Additionally, many on TRT have issues with blood pressure, possibly pulse rate, red blood cell counts way too high, hematocrit levels too high, possible cholesterol levels too high....

....so being on TRT is very high maintenance. Something your body normally takes care of, you now have to worry about.

TRT is a big concern by those that really need it. I am totally confused by anyone that thinks it's a simple matter, and not to be concerned with. I've been on TRT for several years now, and I'm still trying to fine tune it to optimize my test levels and minimize my side effects. If my e levels get too high, it impacts my performance in the bedroom. If I forget or am unable to pin my test on time, low test can cause depression, moodiness, irritability.....

....not only that, but my boys are the size they were pre puberty. Not a huge concern since no more kids and the woman doesn't care what size they are, but taking steroids can impact your ability to have children.

You do want kids at some point, right?

[iHeartless]

ED can be caused by a variety of things, such as low test production, or estradiol levels too high, or LH out of range.....

TRT is something you do NOT want to have to do! It means injections the rest of your life, having to monitor blood levels, etc. As test aromatizes, it converts to estradiol (aka estrogen), and quite often you have to control that as well with an AI. Additionally, many on TRT have issues with blood pressure, possibly pulse rate, red blood cell counts way too high, hematocrit levels too high, possible cholesterol levels too high....

....so being on TRT is very high maintenance. Something your body normally takes care of, you now have to worry about.

TRT is a big concern by those that really need it. I am totally confused by anyone that thinks it's a simple matter, and not to be concerned with. I've been on TRT for several years now, and I'm still trying to fine tune it to optimize my test levels and minimize my side effects. If my e levels get too high, it impacts my performance in the bedroom. If I forget or am unable to pin my test on time, low test can cause depression, moodiness, irritability.....

....not only that, but my boys are the size they were pre puberty. Not a huge concern since no more kids and the woman doesn't care what size they are, but taking steroids can impact your ability to have children.

You do want kids at some point, right?

To answer the only question you asked; I actually do not plan on having kids.

That was a very informative reply, thank you so much. I'm going to research TRT more now. I'm sorry for your troubles with TRT, I'm sure you're smart enough to figure everything out though.

Thanks again.

[MuscleInk]

To answer the only question you asked; I actually do not plan on having kids.

That was a very informative reply, thank you so much. I'm going to research TRT more now. I'm sorry for your troubles with TRT, I'm sure you're smart enough to figure everything out though.

Thanks again.

I felt that way too (about kids). Now I have two and the wife wants more (just shoot me now please).

[iHeartless]

I felt that way too (about kids). Now I have two and the wife wants more (just shoot me now please).

Looks like you have a reason to start another cycle then!

[MuscleInk]

Looks like you have a reason to start another cycle then!

Start? I never stop! Lol

[iHeartless]

Start? I never stop! Lol

If this is a literal reply, then how do you go about PCT?

Or, if someone is on cycles year-round, is PCT not needed? I figure that whenever you are changing chemicals, you use a PCT, no?

[MuscleInk]

If this is a literal reply, then how do you go about PCT?

Or, if someone is on cycles year-round, is PCT not needed? I figure that whenever you are changing chemicals, you use a PCT, no?

I "cruise and blast". In 2011 I was diagnosed with low T. My natural levels were only 162 and I had never touched steroids or prohormones in my life. I have conducted a PCT once and my test levels remained at 86 even after PCT. So now, for the rest of my life, I'll need weekly TRT to feel "normal".

[crazy mike]

To answer the only question you asked; I actually do not plan on having kids.

That was a very informative reply, thank you so much. I'm going to research TRT more now. I'm sorry for your troubles with TRT, I'm sure you're smart enough to figure everything out though.

Thanks again.

Your are two much and you still keep defending what you know and how you don't care and you have an out on all sides of what everyone says. It's like some of us already said, you are am example of why we get tired of dealing with you kids. You asked a Q and we answer and you say why, we answer and why because I, we answer and it's but why, feel, I know and on and on. Most of your questions have been answered in the readings and the sticky's and the posts and the threads. But you have an angle, like huh, know one ever thought of, and the you want us to DEFEND what we say. Are you really that naïve, it sounds like it or you are just out here to see how long you can keep a thread going after it died on the 4h post. Really you need to read up, quit arguing and agreeing just to patronize us. If you made up your mind to continue then it's a moot point now. If you really changed you mind then it's a done deal and you have plenty of years to find your way. You sound mature at times only to tear down any maturity by continuing to exhibit ignorance. ....crazy mike

[Papiriqui]

Your are two much and you still keep defending what you know and how you don't care and you have an out on all sides of what everyone says. It's like some of us already said, you are am example of why we get tired of dealing with you kids. You asked a Q and we answer and you say why, we answer and why because I, we answer and it's but why, feel, I know and on and on. Most of your questions have been answered in the readings and the sticky's and the posts and the threads. But you have an angle, like huh, know one ever thought of, and the you want us to DEFEND what we say. Are you really that naïve, it sounds like it or you are just out here to see how long you can keep a thread going after it died on the 4h post. Really you need to read up, quit arguing and agreeing just to patronize us. If you made up your mind to continue then it's a moot point now. If you really changed you mind then it's a done deal and you have plenty of years to find your way. You sound mature at times only to tear down any maturity by continuing to exhibit ignorance. ....crazy mike

After reading each and every post i get the same vibe from the kid. Gotta give it to you CM!!

[iHeartless]

Your are two much and you still keep defending what you know and how you don't care and you have an out on all sides of what everyone says. It's like some of us already said, you are am example of why we get tired of dealing with you kids. You asked a Q and we answer and you say why, we answer and why because I, we answer and it's but why, feel, I know and on and on. Most of your questions have been answered in the readings and the sticky's and the posts and the threads. But you have an angle, like huh, know one ever thought of, and the you want us to DEFEND what we say. Are you really that naïve, it sounds like it or you are just out here to see how long you can keep a thread going after it died on the 4h post. Really you need to read up, quit arguing and agreeing just to patronize us. If you made up your mind to continue then it's a moot point now. If you really changed you mind then it's a done deal and you have plenty of years to find your way. You sound mature at times only to tear down any maturity by continuing to exhibit ignorance. ....crazy mike

Hey, Mike;

I came into this thread knowing very little, and I'm accepting that, I haven't denied it once.

I understand that you are upset with kids such as myself, but I am only here to learn.

If I offended anyone by saying anything, it was not by intention and I'm sorry to whoever it may have been.

I exhibit ignorance because I am extremely ignorant about the topic, like I have said before.

I'm not here to argue, I'm just here to learn.

Thanks for the reply.

[Times Roman]

To answer the only question you asked; I actually do not plan on having kids.That was a very informative reply, thank you so much. I'm going to research TRT more now. I'm sorry for your troubles with TRT, I'm sure you're smart enough to figure everything out though.

Thanks again.

half the babies born in this world are NOT planned!

and just because you feel this way today, does not mean that you won't be dying to have kids later on. When a man and a woman fall in love and get married, children almost always happen. I don't think it will be any different for you. And when it's time, you will be very happy you are not shooting blanks.

It's the difference between not old enough to really having started living your life yet (you) and someone old enough to know what will probably happen for you in the next five to ten years (me).

Just take the advice kid. You are too willing and eager to give up things you still know nothing about.

[iHeartless]

half the babies born in this world are NOT planned!

and just because you feel this way today, does not mean that you won't be dying to have kids later on. When a man and a woman fall in love and get married, children almost always happen. I don't think it will be any different for you. And when it's time, you will be very happy you are not shooting blanks.

It's the difference between not old enough to really having started living your life yet (you) and someone old enough to know what will probably happen for you in the next five to ten years (me).

Just take the advice kid. You are too willing and eager to give up things you still know nothing about.

I am absorbing and comprehending all advice given and I cannot thank the members enough.

I don't know why I come off defensive, but I can assure you that I am not.

Funny enough, people tell me I am defensive in person as well when I truly am not (or think that I am not).

Again, sorry for any misunderstanding. I'm not trying to create any trouble at all.