Cycle question

[jewboy]

Nah I didn't edit anything im 265. my diet plan is just eating clean natural foods with lots of veggies and I drink about 2 gallons of water a day. You would think I would be lighter but nope. All tests are normal, thyroid, free test, liver enzymes. My Dr said its just my genetics ( very wide shoulders, big legs, huge forearms, but I do hold my fat in my gut )

[Java Man]

Nah I didn't edit anything im 265. my diet plan is just eating clean natural foods with lots of veggies and I drink about 2 gallons of water a day. You would think I would be lighter but nope. All tests are normal, thyroid, free test, liver enzymes. My Dr said its just my genetics ( very wide shoulders, big legs, huge forearms, but I do hold my fat in my gut )

I have a.good friend who's put together like that. You'd think he was fat until he wears his gym clothes. He's got 20'' arms no bs I taped them myself and he's as.strong as some of the people on 'Worlds Strongest Man' but he's not ripped. He has been lifting for as long as I have but as far back as I can remember into late teens when I met the b@stard he was 270 at 5'11''. Just naturally big and so strong its uncivilized lol. Profile is like a tolkienesque dwarf except he's not short. Freaky genetics I guess.

Anyways, to answer your questions:

Hi Im going to begin a cycle soon and my primary goal is fat loss ( I eat clean already ) and hardening. I also want to keep it to just a couple compounds.

!st question is at what amount of test will cause your body to stop making its own
. 2nd would a cycle of just a medium amount of test say 4-500 mg a week with hcg and clomid help me in my goals and if not can anybody recommend a cycle suited to my goals. Thanks

1. It doesn't happen immediately. Exogenous test sends signals to your pituitary to tell your testes to stop producing test because you have too much already, in laymans terms. The higher the dose, the faster it happens and the more your FSH and LH will be affected. Even a small dose will most likely shut you down eventually but everyone reacts differently. HCG at about 200iu eod will keep that from happening.

2. Don't take clomid while on cycles. Add it to your PCT 100mg on day 1, then 50/25/25/25. for 4 weeks.

I stay on hcg through pct but some others will say not to. You have to see what works for you. see my log thread to see why I stayed on hcg.

http://forums.steroid.com/members-cy...ation-log.html

It helps for fat loss but I'm an advanced lifter. I was not just going for fat loss-I was also looking to build muscle and get stronger at the same time AKA body recomposition. My bf% was at least 30% of not 35. I was a hog for a guy with my bone structure. Anyways, I just did what youre looking to do so have a peek.

[songdog]

The best place for you to start bro is in the nutrision section.Post your diet with macros and they will help you.