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    trust me everyone would do CUT AND BULK cycles if they could, thats the ultimate goal of almost everyone in the gym, but it just doesnt work that way.

    pick a reasonable goal to achieve and go for it, decide if you would like to gain some size and MAYBE drop a little BF while you're at it, or the opposite, and stick with it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hunter-S-Thompson View Post
    trust me everyone would do CUT AND BULK cycles if they could, thats the ultimate goal of almost everyone in the gym, but it just doesnt work that way.

    pick a reasonable goal to achieve and go for it, decide if you would like to gain some size and MAYBE drop a little BF while you're at it, or the opposite, and stick with it.
    ok, What i want to do is go from 220 at 14% bf to 240 12% bf. Some may think thats impossible but i believe i can do it at least gain 20 and stay the same bf. I just want to know how much product im gonna need to do this.

    12 week sample cycle

    Test E- 500mg a week or higher??
    Masterone E- 500 mg a week or higher? (never used)
    Anavar/Winstrol- which one is better and how much mg a day do i need? (never used)
    Armidex- do i need to take throughout entire cycle or just at the end and how much (never used)
    Nolva/Clomid-what i have used has came in 30 tabs, and i just took all of them like 2 weeks out of my cycles one a day.

    Does this seem like it would work for what i am trying to do, i really want to stay away from bulking orals

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    Quote Originally Posted by chadcuz1985 View Post
    ok, What i want to do is go from 220 at 14% bf to 240 12% bf. Some may think thats impossible but i believe i can do it at least gain 20 and stay the same bf. I just want to know how much product im gonna need to do this.

    12 week sample cycle

    Test E- 500mg a week or higher??
    Masterone E- 500 mg a week or higher? (never used)
    Anavar/Winstrol- which one is better and how much mg a day do i need? (never used)
    Armidex- do i need to take throughout entire cycle or just at the end and how much (never used)
    Nolva/Clomid-what i have used has came in 30 tabs, and i just took all of them like 2 weeks out of my cycles one a day.

    Does this seem like it would work for what i am trying to do, i really want to stay away from bulking orals
    This Is your first cycle correct?? I would just run test at 500mg a week. You possibly could throw some anavar in there at 80mg/day (others might not agree). As far as ai, run it throughout the entire cycle and use clomid and nolva for pct. Run pct as followed

    Nolva 40/40/20/20 mg
    Clomid 50/50/50/50 mg

    I highly doubt you reach that goal but you will make great gains. How much bf you have after your cycle will depend on your diet. It literally has to be flawless. Goodluck!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by anahny View Post
    This Is your first cycle correct?? I would just run test at 500mg a week. You possibly could throw some anavar in there at 80mg/day (others might not agree). As far as ai, run it throughout the entire cycle and use clomid and nolva for pct. Run pct as followed

    Nolva 40/40/20/20 mg
    Clomid 50/50/50/50 mg

    I highly doubt you reach that goal but you will make great gains. How much bf you have after your cycle will depend on your diet. It literally has to be flawless. Goodluck!!
    heres the deal, im no steroid guru you all know that. This would be my first legit cycle if i can get ahold of the stuff since i have started back lifting on the daily. Me and most of the guys at the gym are on the search for gear, we live in a small town and the stuff is just hard to get. With that being said, i did get access to 6.5 cc of sust 250 which i shot and made into about a 10 week cycle, i would shoot every other week mid cycle. Great gains off it and im maintaing no problem. i did no pct, i just took some tribulus, no adverse affects at all. I want to take myself to the next level. i feel if i done a real cycle, i would achieve much more. I am simply here to obtain knowledge from experienced useers here, i usually never turn to the internet but i am all out of options, since there are no people i know that really know what the hell they are doing. Im 28 now, and have done some aas in the past, around age 22, and i did do pct with them on the longer cycles. i get alot of insulting comments from some members, which i dont like but i have no choice but to deal with it till i can find out more info so any info is appreciated. thanks for your comment, and btw, i believe i can reach that goal, as i have gained alot from pretty much using nothing but protein/creatine in the past 8 months.

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    Quote Originally Posted by chadcuz1985 View Post
    heres the deal, im no steroid guru you all know that. This would be my first legit cycle if i can get ahold of the stuff since i have started back lifting on the daily. Me and most of the guys at the gym are on the search for gear, we live in a small town and the stuff is just hard to get. With that being said, i did get access to 6.5 cc of sust 250 which i shot and made into about a 10 week cycle, i would shoot every other week mid cycle. Great gains off it and im maintaing no problem. i did no pct, i just took some tribulus, no adverse affects at all. I want to take myself to the next level. i feel if i done a real cycle, i would achieve much more. I am simply here to obtain knowledge from experienced useers here, i usually never turn to the internet but i am all out of options, since there are no people i know that really know what the hell they are doing. Im 28 now, and have done some aas in the past, around age 22, and i did do pct with them on the longer cycles. i get alot of insulting comments from some members, which i dont like but i have no choice but to deal with it till i can find out more info so any info is appreciated. thanks for your comment, and btw, i believe i can reach that goal, as i have gained alot from pretty much using nothing but protein/creatine in the past 8 months.
    If you ran this jacked of a cycle before and had no sides then you might not need to run an A.I. the whole way through the cycle but you sure as heck better have it on hand just in case.

    Like has been said already, make sure your diet and training is on point for your apparent freakishly good genetics and put together a simple test based cycle..

    weeks 1-10 400mg test c(i like to front load at X1.5mg)
    A.I.(letro or aro) weeks 3-14
    look at H.C.G.(lots of guys on this board run it through out the whole cycle) I would just use it for the last 2-3 weeks while on.
    Nolva 100mg ed first 5 days of week 12 and then dose down 60mg 5days then 20mg ed for 2-3 weeks..

    The above is a super half @$$ cycle plan. look through the stickies in this Q&A section of the forum and build your own and post it and you will get better responses.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gianttime View Post
    If you ran this jacked of a cycle before and had no sides then you might not need to run an A.I. the whole way through the cycle but you sure as heck better have it on hand just in case.

    Like has been said already, make sure your diet and training is on point for your apparent freakishly good genetics and put together a simple test based cycle..

    weeks 1-10 400mg test c(i like to front load at X1.5mg)
    A.I.(letro or aro) weeks 3-14
    look at H.C.G.(lots of guys on this board run it through out the whole cycle) I would just use it for the last 2-3 weeks while on.
    Nolva 100mg ed first 5 days of week 12 and then dose down 60mg 5days then 20mg ed for 2-3 weeks..

    The above is a super half @$$ cycle plan. look through the stickies in this Q&A section of the forum and build your own and post it and you will get better responses.
    thinks for the comment, i know it is a super half ass cycle plan because i dont know what the hell i am doing when it comes to roids, thats why i am here so i can learn to use them so i can morph into a beast. I will look through all the stickies in fact. I just get alot of haters on here for some reason im not saying i am better than anyone because im not im just posting stats and progress and asking questions i dont understand why so many have hated calling me a bullshit liar basically. Nobody everdoes in the gym or on the street , funny aint it. To be honest, i cant even get steroids, i thought i had a guy that i could trust that sold me some omega test cyp, which turns out to be fake gear after i get on here asking about omega so im just trying to gather knowledge And its quite hard to stay positive with so many negative comments on my posts and threads. ....enuff of my rant, thanks again for the info on the pct, thats valuable info to me

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    Quote Originally Posted by chadcuz1985 View Post
    ok, What i want to do is go from 220 at 14% bf to 240 12% bf. Some may think thats impossible but i believe i can do it at least gain 20 and stay the same bf. I just want to know how much product im gonna need to do this.

    12 week sample cycle

    Test E- 500mg a week or higher??
    Masterone E- 500 mg a week or higher? (never used)
    Anavar/Winstrol- which one is better and how much mg a day do i need? (never used)
    Armidex- do i need to take throughout entire cycle or just at the end and how much (never used)
    Nolva/Clomid-what i have used has came in 30 tabs, and i just took all of them like 2 weeks out of my cycles one a day.

    Does this seem like it would work for what i am trying to do, i really want to stay away from bulking orals
    This is certainly achievable. I don't think it will happen in 12 weeks though. I would recommend to set a little smaller goal like 10 lbs lbm and 2%bf drop in 12 weeks. Which still isn't easy, but achievable. Just my opinion that easier or short-term goals keep a person motivated because they are easier to achieve. I need to take my own advice though OP. I tend to set big goals myself then get disappointed when I don't hit them.

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