Aromatase Excess Syndrome

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BBJT, you make a rather convincing case. i wish you all the best in your treatment. i personally feel it may be slightly too complicated to be self-managed.

Yannick, your case sounds more like a TRT mis-management. but since you're happy with your current doctor, things should be getting better.

i find this condition really interesting. it would be great if both of you would keep the board updated regarding your progress.

[yannick35]

BBJT, you make a rather convincing case. i wish you all the best in your treatment. i personally feel it may be slightly too complicated to be self-managed.

Yannick, your case sounds more like a TRT mis-management. but since you're happy with your current doctor, things should be getting better.

i find this condition really interesting. it would be great if both of you would keep the board updated regarding your progress.

The vote is still up for this for me at least, a lot of people here are convinced you cannot do a cycle without testosterone and this is what bothers me. With the cycles i am doing now i know i wont put 20 pounds of muscles but i will transform my body. The guy that fixes my back has seen many 40 year old do small cycles like this just to shed the fat get the muscle maturity and improve training over the year. I cannot speak about tren i will get it this week and add it to the cycle, but winstrol and var are working great so far, first week of win and my body has change a bit, the pumps i am getting are insane but i also get the muscle spasm that come with it, pain in calves, feet hands etc, and since i got back pain i feel it even more. Most people that did this 7 week cycle and lost fat kept it off, the small muscle gains on winstrol was also kept, so if i gain like 4-5 pounds and shed a lot of fat i will be happy with this.

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The vote is still up for this for me at least, a lot of people here are convinced you cannot do a cycle without testosterone and this is what bothers me. With the cycles i am doing now i know i wont put 20 pounds of muscles but i will transform my body. The guy that fixes my back has seen many 40 year old do small cycles like this just to shed the fat get the muscle maturity and improve training over the year. I cannot speak about tren i will get it this week and add it to the cycle, but winstrol and var are working great so far, first week of win and my body has change a bit, the pumps i am getting are insane but i also get the muscle spasm that come with it, pain in calves, feet hands etc, and since i got back pain i feel it even more. Most people that did this 7 week cycle and lost fat kept it off, the small muscle gains on winstrol was also kept, so if i gain like 4-5 pounds and shed a lot of fat i will be happy with this.

i would suggest you go slow with the compounds and doses of your cycle. dont try too many things at one go, and dont use too high doses.

[BBJT200]

BBJT, you make a rather convincing case. i wish you all the best in your treatment. i personally feel it may be slightly too complicated to be self-managed.

Yannick, your case sounds more like a TRT mis-management. but since you're happy with your current doctor, things should be getting better.

i find this condition really interesting. it would be great if both of you would keep the board updated regarding your progress.

Thank you for your kind wishes. It is a complicated matter and I would much rather have it managed by a specialist, but for now I do not have much of a choice. I will keep this thread updated with my progress.

I have now been on letrozole for 8 days, 2.5mg/day. Mood swings have vanished (these were common - all day, every day for me), water retention has gone noticeably down, I am losing body fat on my chest, stomach, and legs. No joint pain or low estrogen symptoms so far. I am thinking I will get bloodwork at the end of week three.


I am very intrigued by the idea of using aromasin and arimidex together or aromasin and letrozole together to combat estrogen. Aromasin is very easy on the body compared to letrozole and arimidex, so if it could handle the majority of my aromatase enzymes, I think I would be better off in terms of long-term treatment. This is definitely the area where working with a specialist would be much better than managing it on my own.

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I am very intrigued by the idea of using aromasin and arimidex together or aromasin and letrozole together to combat estrogen. Aromasin is very easy on the body compared to letrozole and arimidex, so if it could handle the majority of my aromatase enzymes, I think I would be better off in terms of long-term treatment. This is definitely the area where working with a specialist would be much better than managing it on my own.

i dont think you should use 2 AI together. i'm not sure what will happen if you use both. the drug companies and doctors wont know either, cos it probably have never been tried on humans before...lol

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i dont think you should use 2 AI together. i'm not sure what will happen if you use both. the drug companies and doctors wont know either, cos it probably have never been tried on humans before...lol

The worst thing that I could imagine happening would be a tanked e2 level, which will come back very quickly for me.
I have managed to bottom out my e2 before when I was trying to kill gyno with letrozole, but the symptoms of low e2 (fatigue, achy joints) only lasted less than a day.

I'm thinking that 25mg/day aromasin + some small dose of arimidex or letrozole would be better than just using a high dose of letrozole. I've used up to 1mg/day of arimidex and it still is not enough; I'm hesitant to go higher. Aromasin has been shown to be much less harmful to blood lipids

But you're right...I doubt the doctors or drug companies would have a clue. I guess I'll be a guinea pig...and hope for the best lol

[yannick35]

The worst thing that I could imagine happening would be a tanked e2 level, which will come back very quickly for me.
I have managed to bottom out my e2 before when I was trying to kill gyno with letrozole, but the symptoms of low e2 (fatigue, achy joints) only lasted less than a day.

I'm thinking that 25mg/day aromasin + some small dose of arimidex or letrozole would be better than just using a high dose of letrozole. I've used up to 1mg/day of arimidex and it still is not enough; I'm hesitant to go higher. Aromasin has been shown to be much less harmful to blood lipids

But you're right...I doubt the doctors or drug companies would have a clue. I guess I'll be a guinea pig...and hope for the best lol

letro is king and the strongest ever i used it after that one year crap TRT and lost a lot of water. The dosage i am using for my cycles are always low, 120-150mg per week tren win at 150mg for 10 weeks might has well run the whole bottle and var for the whole bottle too at 20-30mg per day. Thoses are all low dosage. I got clomid and nova for PCT with HCG