First cycle Advice

[marcus300]

I don't want to sound pretentious, but i already new this. Got some blood work back today and my test levels are 329ng/dl which is below average. and i feel that the "average" is messed up by the fact that we take in 80 year diabetics into the mix and such. I don't believe it's going to get much better than this. I might be slightly higher 4 years down the road, but then those levels are just going to drop in another 4 years so **** it whats the point in waiting?

Do you really want to fuk yourself up for good if so ignore my advice..............

[hamburgertime]

Do you really want to fuk yourself up for good if so ignore my advice..............

that's a baseless statement and you know it. You have no way of knowing that.

[marcus300]

that's a baseless statement and you know it. You have no way of knowing that.

Well your 21 yrs old 165lbs at 5ft 10" and need steroids to get bigger! you don't know how to eat to gain size otherwise you would be a lot bigger. You want to shut down your natural test before its fully developed go ahead and see what happens, you will lose all the weight you put on plus more because your body and diet wont support any new tissue and your test levels will be lower so its a big no no.

Anyone can see that your diet and training needs work and you also need to wait a few years. You come here asking for advice from people who know what they are talking about and you just ignore it or wont take it in, that's your choice but I can see I am wasting my time and effort so best of luck to you I wont comment again....

[MuscleInk]

that's a baseless statement and you know it. You have no way of knowing that.

Not baseless. Exogenous anabolics will shunt your endogenous pathway and physiological production. It is entirely possible you will not recover normal physiological function and your endogenous levels will remain suppressed. Secondary sequela will include ED, loss of libido, depression, and more.

Plenty of threads on here from young men who did NOT heed the advice only to find out the hard way (or limp way) that they should have been a little more humble and less hasty.

[hamburgertime]

Not baseless. Exogenous anabolics will shunt your endogenous pathway and physiological production. It is entirely possible you will not recover normal physiological function and your endogenous levels will remain suppressed. Secondary sequela will include ED, loss of libido, depression, and more.

Plenty of threads on here from young men who did NOT heed the advice only to find out the hard way (or limp way) that they should have been a little more humble and less hasty.

i think its possible for production to get shut down obviously. i also think its possible to have your natural production at a fraction at what it used to be, but i think its ridiculous to believe that production stops 100% and never starts up again. it's not like your balls fall off after a cycle. all the components for test production are still there..

[MuscleInk]

i think its possible for production to get shut down obviously. i also think its possible to have your natural production at a fraction at what it used to be, but i think its ridiculous to believe that production stops 100% and never starts up again. it's not like your balls fall off after a cycle. all the compenents for test production are still there..

You sound like one of my medical residents who thinks they have it all figured out.

It comes down to this. YOU came here seeking advice. We didn't drag you in and we aren't holding you captive. You can take the advice or pretend to know more than guys who have trained harder and longer than you've been alive and know more about every anabolic imaginable. These guys aren't paid for their time here any more than you are. They offer their time and input free of charge and believe you me, guys like Marcus aren't flapping their gums - they are living the success kids like you are chasing.

So you're free to do as you please. We won't fault you for your decision. It's your life, your HTPA, your nuts. Just don't be one of those guys that whines in a thread later that his junk doesn't work, he lost his gains, and is desperate for help to fix what you broke.

Be safe. Be smart. Good luck.

[hamburgertime]

for some reason alot of people on this site are keyboard warriors and probably insecure. its pretty transparent.

Marcus is probably very knowledgeable, has had success with gear, and is probably a really cool guy. he probably just doesn't want giving advice to a kid on his conscious.

crazymike you seem like a cool guy too, but i wish you actually helped me out rahter than try to undermine my confidence.

everyone else is coming off as a complete and total phaggots. they literally remind me of the seething at the mouth insecure virgins i meet at parties who just rip on people cause they can't get any *****

[Back In Black]

for some reason alot of people on this site are keyboard warriors and probably insecure. its pretty transparent.

Marcus is probably very knowledgeable, has had success with gear, and is probably a really cool guy. he probably just doesn't want giving advice to a kid on his conscious.

crazymike you seem like a cool guy too, but i wish you actually helped me out rahter than try to undermine my confidence.

everyone else is coming off as a complete and total phaggots. they literally remind me of the seething at the mouth insecure virgins i meet at parties who just rip on people cause they can't get any *****

Enjoy your short time here kid, there are other sites that won't care about your health as MI stated.

[Times Roman]

for some reason alot of people on this site are keyboard warriors and probably insecure. its pretty transparent.

Marcus is probably very knowledgeable, has had success with gear, and is probably a really cool guy. he probably just doesn't want giving advice to a kid on his conscious.

crazymike you seem like a cool guy too, but i wish you actually helped me out rahter than try to undermine my confidence.

everyone else is coming off as a complete and total phaggots. they literally remind me of the seething at the mouth insecure virgins i meet at parties who just rip on people cause they can't get any *****

so I'm a phaggot now too?

Strike two mate.

Either learn to play well with others......

.........or the exit signs are clearly visible.

Your choice

---Roman

[SexySweetheart]

for some reason alot of people on this site are keyboard warriors and probably insecure. its pretty transparent.

Marcus is probably very knowledgeable, has had success with gear, and is probably a really cool guy. he probably just doesn't want giving advice to a kid on his conscious.

crazymike you seem like a cool guy too, but i wish you actually helped me out rahter than try to undermine my confidence.

everyone else is coming off as a complete and total phaggots. they literally remind me of the seething at the mouth insecure virgins i meet at parties who just rip on people cause they can't get any *****

PLAY NICE, the fellas are here to help per your request.
may not be what you wanna hear but they are strait shooters and being very blunt with you for your own benefit.