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    Quote Originally Posted by zeeibi

    To be fair tho there is also alot of advice on this website/forum to keep an AI "on hand" etc as thats were i got that information in the first place, there seems to be mixed opinions.. some say u need a considerable level of estrogen to be able to grow etc
    I appreciate the feedback and warnings and im not just brushing it off, i am seriously considering if i should cycle again or not(for now anyway).

    I was cleared of heart issues in the first week of Feb when i saw my cardiologist and did a stress test, since then ive had no issues and blood pressure has been normal every time i test it(once or twice a week).
    As for the diet, I know alot of you on this forum dont like the idea of the IIFYM/flexible dieting approach but thats what i follow, i track everything on myfitnesspal and hit my target macros daily with a majority being "clean" foods like brown rice, chicken, lean beef, potatoes etc..

    My weight is atm is 80kg and id say im at around 13% bf..
    current macro/calories is 200p/300c/70f (2650~ approx daily). I have a fairly inactive lifestyle so my maintenance cals are fairly low.

    EDIT - obviously i will increase my calories if/when on cycle and keep them higher as my bodyweight increases, this is just what im on now for a "lean bulk" with my slowass metabolism
    EDIT #2 - age 24, not 22
    Yes, and I still cringe. From my perspective as a medical provider, the benefits of an AI outweigh the risks of using and not using an AI as long as doses are properly followed and not misused or abused. I agree, there is certainly an optimal range of E2 and it varies individually. Some guys feel better when their levels are on the higher end of normal (ULN); others function better at the lower end. I've had mine run as high as 400 and I've accidentally crashed it trying to lower it quickly (when it shot up). Ironically, I felt no untoward effects at 400 although parameters in my blood work favored cardiac risks if left untreated. Crashing my E actually "felt" worse.

    Good to hear the stress test was normal. Keep an eye on the BP and hyperlipidemia when running any cycle - we want you healthy and alive.

    Diet is also an individual factor but it is critical to success. The TDEE an caloric needs for LBM or cutting will vary with each person. The TDEE+/- 500 to gain or lose weight is a guideline. Everyone needs to determine their own "set point" for sustainable gains or loses - but make no mistake, nutrition is everything.

    Like many guys, I made the mistake in my very first cycle of not staying consistent with my nutrition off cycle. I gained a lot (mostly water) on my very first cycle and lost much of it when I went on TRT because I wasn't eating enough to support and sustain the gains. We're just trying to help the newbies avoid the mistakes we (an others) have made.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MuscleInk View Post
    Yes, and I still cringe. From my perspective as a medical provider, the benefits of an AI outweigh the risks of using and not using an AI as long as doses are properly followed and not misused or abused. I agree, there is certainly an optimal range of E2 and it varies individually. Some guys feel better when their levels are on the higher end of normal (ULN); others function better at the lower end. I've had mine run as high as 400 and I've accidentally crashed it trying to lower it quickly (when it shot up). Ironically, I felt no untoward effects at 400 although parameters in my blood work favored cardiac risks if left untreated. Crashing my E actually "felt" worse.

    Good to hear the stress test was normal. Keep an eye on the BP and hyperlipidemia when running any cycle - we want you healthy and alive.

    Diet is also an individual factor but it is critical to success. The TDEE an caloric needs for LBM or cutting will vary with each person. The TDEE+/- 500 to gain or lose weight is a guideline. Everyone needs to determine their own "set point" for sustainable gains or loses - but make no mistake, nutrition is everything.

    Like many guys, I made the mistake in my very first cycle of not staying consistent with my nutrition off cycle. I gained a lot (mostly water) on my very first cycle and lost much of it when I went on TRT because I wasn't eating enough to support and sustain the gains. We're just trying to help the newbies avoid the mistakes we (an others) have made.
    ty for the info, will defs keep an eye on the BP etc n get some bloods done during.


    Wanted to clear up some things tho.
    Start adex at 0.25 e3d day of my 1st jab? y/n?
    when transitioning from the 2x250mg p/w test E to the 100mg EOD test prop, how many days after my last test E jab to i do my first prop jab to keep blood levels as stable as possible?

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