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    Op I see your asking now for the shortcuts. A crash course. You need time to lean it on your own because you MUST understand the why's and whatnots. By reading you will have Q's, good Q's and you will learn and retain it.

    As any Question on Google and you will get so much data. Some will point you to threads on this forum and others for the Tech answer. This knowledge is not only found on a forum like this. Get your clues here and some discussions and Google and search on here. ...crazy not, mike

    Non of us learned all this on a one thread crash course and this is how and what it is post. OK , I'll stop .....crazzzzy mike
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    Quote Originally Posted by crazy mike View Post
    Op I see your asking now for the shortcuts. A crash course. You need time to lean it on your own because you MUST understand the why's and whatnots. By reading you will have Q's, good Q's and you will learn and retain it.

    As any Question on Google and you will get so much data. Some will point you to threads on this forum and others for the Tech answer. This knowledge is not only found on a forum like this. Get your clues here and some discussions and Google and search on here. ...crazy not, mike

    Non of us learned all this on a one thread crash course and this is how and what it is post. OK , I'll stop .....crazzzzy mike
    Yeah man, wasnt asking for someone to sit here and write a book telling me everything I needed to know, its just that every thread I found about those few topics, were very hard to process because they were constantly talking about other things that I didnt understand. Kinda felt like trying to learn a foreign language by sitting down and reading something written in the language, ud have no clue what the hell ur reading.

    As far as my background in lifting goes. I have only been working out for 4 months on this stint, I lifted all threw highschool for wrestling and was pretty decently built then. I also went on and off of lifting threwout the years ive been out of highschool. I always struggled with the whole motivation thing, because I had a decent weight setup in my basement. Id always tell myself "ehh I can do it later" and thats why I never fully stuck to lifting after I graduated. Mid February is when I went out and got a membership to a gym and really pushed myself to lift. Ive been going 4-5 days a week since I started there, havent missed any time yet.

    As far as my build goes, as for me believing I was ready to try out some gear, I dont consider myself big at all, but I did feel that I had a decent build to start with, and that I had a foundation of a lifting plan and a decent diet to start out with. The guy who got me into it was actually the guy I talk to about supplements all the time. Since I talked to him as much as I did, he seemed to suggest good stuff, and he was big himself, I trusted him. One day we were talking and he was like look man, do you want to lift hard for the next 3 months and still be where u are now, or do you want to lift hard for the next 3 months and get big? Obviously everyone knows what the answer to that would be. Then he told me the he had been on Enth for the past few months and thats why he is as big as he is. He went on to tell me he could also get me prop, and that taking prop + Enth will get me even bigger faster. Seeing that he was as big as he was, and that he sounded like he knew what he was talking about, I trusted him. I didnt bother trying to research online because I assumed that because of the legality of gear, that there wouldnt be to much out there, and besides that I thought I could really trust the dude. Turns out that he really had no clue about it and was telling me all the wrong stuff.

    He told me that the first few injections would hurt, so I assumed that everything was normal after the first few rough injections. After taking my 4th injection and still being in serious pain though, I figured something couldnt be right, which is when I googled it and found this site.

    I know that quite a few people here are telling me that I just need to quit and forget about it, but already being 4 shots in, that really seems like a waste. I know I havent been lifting for a long time, but for the time that I have been lifting I have really dedicated myself to it and I feel that I can do this. I have already learned that using the 2 types of test at once was pretty stupid, and that I was not ready for prop yet. I have learned that the cycle I should be on is 1 mL of Enth, on Mon and Thurs.

    What I still need to learn yet, and learn asap is about Post Cycle Treatment. From what im reading post cycle treatment actually starts before your cycle is over?

    One thing in your post that does confuse me Crazy Mike, is that you say that you are an expert in injections but arnt PCT savy? Does that mean you dont bother with Post Cycle Treatment? Also you said about being crazy for putting 2 CCs into my quad on the first quad injection, you believe that putting 2 instead of just 1 is part of the reason I was so stinkin sore? You believe that since im dropping back to just the 1 mL of Enth instead of injecting 2 mLs that it will help take a lot of the soreness away?

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    Quote Originally Posted by trizzypballr View Post
    Yeah man, wasnt asking for someone to sit here and write a book telling me everything I needed to know, its just that every thread I found about those few topics, were very hard to process because they were constantly talking about other things that I didnt understand. Kinda felt like trying to learn a foreign language by sitting down and reading something written in the language, ud have no clue what the hell ur reading.

    As far as my background in lifting goes. I have only been working out for 4 months on this stint, I lifted all threw highschool for wrestling and was pretty decently built then. I also went on and off of lifting threwout the years ive been out of highschool. I always struggled with the whole motivation thing, because I had a decent weight setup in my basement. Id always tell myself "ehh I can do it later" and thats why I never fully stuck to lifting after I graduated. Mid February is when I went out and got a membership to a gym and really pushed myself to lift. Ive been going 4-5 days a week since I started there, havent missed any time yet.

    As far as my build goes, as for me believing I was ready to try out some gear, I dont consider myself big at all, but I did feel that I had a decent build to start with, and that I had a foundation of a lifting plan and a decent diet to start out with. The guy who got me into it was actually the guy I talk to about supplements all the time. Since I talked to him as much as I did, he seemed to suggest good stuff, and he was big himself, I trusted him. One day we were talking and he was like look man, do you want to lift hard for the next 3 months and still be where u are now, or do you want to lift hard for the next 3 months and get big? Obviously everyone knows what the answer to that would be. Then he told me the he had been on Enth for the past few months and thats why he is as big as he is. He went on to tell me he could also get me prop, and that taking prop + Enth will get me even bigger faster. Seeing that he was as big as he was, and that he sounded like he knew what he was talking about, I trusted him. I didnt bother trying to research online because I assumed that because of the legality of gear, that there wouldnt be to much out there, and besides that I thought I could really trust the dude. Turns out that he really had no clue about it and was telling me all the wrong stuff.

    He told me that the first few injections would hurt, so I assumed that everything was normal after the first few rough injections. After taking my 4th injection and still being in serious pain though, I figured something couldnt be right, which is when I googled it and found this site.


    I know that quite a few people here are telling me that I just need to quit and forget about it, but already being 4 shots in, that really seems like a waste. I know I havent been lifting for a long time, but for the time that I have been lifting I have really dedicated myself to it and I feel that I can do this. I have already learned that using the 2 types of test at once was pretty stupid, and that I was not ready for prop yet. I have learned that the cycle I should be on is 1 mL of Enth, on Mon and Thurs.

    What I still need to learn yet, and learn asap is about Post Cycle Treatment. From what im reading post cycle treatment actually starts before your cycle is over?

    One thing in your post that does confuse me Crazy Mike, is that you say that you are an expert in injections but arnt PCT savy? Does that mean you dont bother with Post Cycle Treatment? Also you said about being crazy for putting 2 CCs into my quad on the first quad injection, you believe that putting 2 instead of just 1 is part of the reason I was so stinkin sore? You believe that since im dropping back to just the 1 mL of Enth instead of injecting 2 mLs that it will help take a lot of the soreness away?
    Let me see if I can't get you to understand. Simply now since you are still trying to figure out what I and others are saying means, Yep you are not ready mentally and physically. Not bashing that's a fact. Get that and be cool with that.
    Now Get this, no matter how seasoned you are some injections will produce soreness, several variables, Not to explain but that's a fact. The two (2) cc's in your Quad for a virgin, in my OP is too much volume and since you almost couldn't walk I'll let you decide.

    On the issues of me stating I'm not PCT savvy I will explain. Now I don't like to parrot, just say because I heard so even though I could suggest PCT compounds and doses but I have never used a PCT system at the end of my cycles.
    If you check my profile you will see my age and in my interview you will see my history and my old school juicing ways. I admit NOT GOOD, I don't recommend. But do to many things I made a decision to not come off totally. I cruse at a low dose of Test all the time. THIS IS FOR ME ONLY so I don't talk about it much so I don't give others the idea.

    AS far as you being dedicated, trying hard, harder, getting serious and more doesn't do anything for where you body is at 4 months of trading. I just had surgery and was off 2-1/2 months and I'm in a cycle now some almost 4 months out from the Operation and I'm just now kicking a$$. With all my experience , YES...I started my comeback cycle a little too soon,. To say the least. BUT I never came off the Test during surgery and recovery. Why, I don't do typical PCT. OH, 4 -5 days a week, we're all different but for 6 months I was 6 days a week to get it all in with legs two (2) days a week.

    AS far as a different language, hell I'm 61/62 and still have trouble with the basic texting and posting abbreviations that the young use, so for me, I used Google in the beginning just to carry on a conversation. I didn't hold everyone up to get them to explain, OP, LMAO. LMFAO, yea right. If you read my interview you might see why I was not out front and center of all the electronic worlds and internet, texting etc.. So what am I saying. I had to work my as off.

    Oh sorry if I missed it, where is you AI, maybe I missed it. You want me to tell you as an EXPE RT about Gyno, I will. DON"T FVCK WITH IT, don't test yourself, don't wait to see. Like an addict when he/she finds they are addicted, IT"S TOO FVCKIN late. In My many, many years of experience with both, take my advice.

    With all of it. Only 4 months, age and all STOP and regroup because you will PROBABLY train for three more months and after 5 -6 months you will not be any farther along than I you eat and train right. You have NO clue as to what you embark on especially in the end. ...crazy mike

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