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    ^^^ 30%, you're very generous!

    OP, simply go back to your TRT dose 3 week prior to doing BW

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    Quote Originally Posted by bass View Post
    OP, simply go back to your TRT dose 3 week prior to doing BW
    x2. IDK, I do the occasional blast myself, but am finding it's not worth the risk in losing my TRT Doc as time goes on. I'm pretty happy with what I maintain on my TRT dose anyways. BTW its nice not having a "Nanny" here to flame the OP for this thread.

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    Quote Originally Posted by APIs View Post
    x2. IDK, I do the occasional blast myself, but am finding it's not worth the risk in losing my TRT Doc as time goes on. I'm pretty happy with what I maintain on my TRT dose anyways. BTW its nice not having a "Nanny" here to flame the OP for this thread.
    I agree.

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    Still love to see some pre-TRT blood work. And yes API / Bass, guys will additionally "supplement" their protocols so no reason to not be able to offer some guidance to them!
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    Quote Originally Posted by kelkel View Post
    And yes API / Bass, guys will additionally "supplement" their protocols so no reason to not be able to offer some guidance to them!
    Good to hear Kel. Hey, it happens & therefore should be a valid discussion point. IMO, ‘Holier-than-Thou’ attitudes can only hurt those seeking advice…

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    Quote Originally Posted by bass View Post
    ^^^ 30%, you're very generous!

    OP, simply go back to your TRT dose 3 week prior to doing BW
    Three weeks is plenty time? How dose uping my dose effect my natural test levels. I mean as you use aas it suppresses your test. Should you use nova or Clomid to reduce estrogen levels? He didn't test my estrogen on last blood work but he didn't have a real reason to do so but I would think he would having me on trt. Maybe I'm just over thinking it but I don't want him to know I'm running my own gear and let my insurance know and never be able to get insurance.

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    Quote Originally Posted by big88sub View Post
    Im going to answer several questions in this. I did pct with Clomid and nova. No I don't have any pre cycle blood work. My test was 290 and the normal range is 360 to 1100 and something so the doctor put me on test enth 200 mg once a month. I am doing my own injections of coarse.
    Do you have a copy of the BW that your doc used to evaluate you and put you on TRT? And quite honestly, you need to run from this doc as fast as possible as he knows nothing about hormones. Test has about a 5-7 day half life, metabolism dependent. My point is simply that injections should be weekly at a minimum. You will be on a hormonal roller coaster with a once per month protocol. Find a competent doctor fast.

    Quote Originally Posted by big88sub View Post
    Three weeks is plenty time? How dose uping my dose effect my natural test levels. I mean as you use aas it suppresses your test. Should you use nova or Clomid to reduce estrogen levels? He didn't test my estrogen on last blood work but he didn't have a real reason to do so but I would think he would having me on trt. Maybe I'm just over thinking it but I don't want him to know I'm running my own gear and let my insurance know and never be able to get insurance.
    You no longer are producing endogenous testosterone so you're not suppressed, your totally shut down when on bio-identical T therapy. Which leads to why most people on TRT should be on HCG to keep their testicals functioning, but that's another story and there's actually a great sticky thread on it. Nolva and clomid are SERM's, not AI's. Yes, your doc should know your E2 level, he just doesn't know any better. You need to know your E2 level via a sensitive assay to see where things are. If you are running cycle levels of Test then you need to use an AI, there's no way around it. There are private labs available that will test for you at reasonable prices.
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